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Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by mellie » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:33 pm

Gosh, how many more make-overs are we going to see before she gets it?


http://m.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/gi ... 1ooiw.html

We have seen the "New Gillard" reinvent herself and her cabinet direction over and over again yet nothing ever becomes of it.


It's like a soap opera script, you can stop watching them for a month, even a year, then tune in and be exactly where you left off.

The cast may change a little, not always, but it's the same old script.

Ground-hog day in parliament and our media every single day.

Like watching repeats of MASH, gets a little worn after the first 100 or so re-runs repeating themselves over and over again.

:zzzz

I think Australia have woken up to the fact that these re-runs are auto-generated spool, intentionally being trickled to Labors chosen press gallery for the purpose of distribution to allude to the prospect that this government is actually doing something, which it clearly isn't.

Gillard and Tim have left the lodge, did so just in time for the Queens visit, and they have no plans on returning any-time soon, (Year long renovations of an urgent nature were necessary they advised)...

:roll

You can build a brand new home in less than 6 months, a shopping complex in less than a year, but it takes over a year to repair a leaking roof that was in such poor repair, she's advised they not only had to move out, but have declared it hazardous and could take up to and beyond a year to repair?

There was no mention of the lodge being in such poor repair when they moved in last year, why has it suddenly deteriorated to the point whereby she and man-bag had to leave and have not set a date for their return?

I can tell you why...

Because they wont be returning to the lodge, Bill Shorten has probably already moved in...this or is preparing to do so.

:bgrin

They say the show ain't over until the fat lady sings.... does anyone know if Julia can hold a tune?

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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by Bart » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:09 pm

mellie wrote:Gosh, how many more make-overs are we going to see before she gets it?



They say the show ain't over until the fat lady sings.... does anyone know if Julia can hold a tune?

Well, we've seen the treasonist Gillard, the real Juliar, the lying Gillard, the crying Gillard, the schoolgirl giggling Gillard, the paranoid Gillard, the demanding public sympathy Gillard, the groping & molesting Gillard, what else is there?
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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by mellie » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:11 pm

Bart wrote:
mellie wrote:Gosh, how many more make-overs are we going to see before she gets it?



They say the show ain't over until the fat lady sings.... does anyone know if Julia can hold a tune?

Well, we've seen the treasonist Gillard, the real Juliar, the lying Gillard, the crying Gillard, the schoolgirl giggling Gillard, the paranoid Gillard, the demanding public sympathy Gillard, the groping & molesting Gillard, what else is there?

She's pretty well covered it, ... That's for sure.

What else has she got?

Even the Woman's weekly are bored with it.

:lol:

:roll
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Post by Bart » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:12 pm

oh and we've seen the fat barge arse Gillard too!
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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by mellie » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:59 pm

Gillards faceless cabinet gets a face-lift.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/p ... 6219016428


Now watch as the direction of the party changes yet again and begins to prepare for a very public face-off between their former buddies the Greens who will be expecting new ALP cabinet minsters to keep the deals their predecessors made before the election.

Out with the old, and in with the new, "this podium isn't big enough for the two of us" Bill Shorten will hiss, as Bob Brown reaches for his biodegradable hanky to wipe beads of sweat from his brow then recounts all their preferential pre-election promises and deals.

:roll

"But, But you promised" Bob will whine in a exacerbated shrill and say "No fair, you said we were friends, partners, right to the end, now look what you went and did, turned me into just another dope with a solar panel up his ass and no policy success to show for it."

:du

Shorten will do what ever it takes to distance himself and his new cabinets direction from the greens, because he realises Australia hates Greens carbon-tax and knows the only chance he has at getting re-elected is to convince Australia he is more for the businessman not the nasty old carbon-tax this and being the good catholic he is *cough* is staunchly opposed to same-sex marriage.

:roll Bye bye Greens, ALP have had their fill and don't think they need you any more.

Remember, the ghastly carbon-tax was who's idea again?


Lets blame the greens and wipe the slate clean.


:thumb

Grumbling in the Green camp is already evident...as Bob curls up his toes and tip-toes back to environmental issues his party once placed more emphasis on.

"Look guys, I still care about the environment, see, look at me here complaining about Gillard in the mercury yesterday breaking her deal about logging."

"Better late than never, right?"

"Caarn guys, I'm still green, look, it's me, your old buddy Bob Green from the Browns, eer, Brown Bob from the Greens, bob, diddly bob, bob, bob badoo well, it's just me, just call me Bob, see, I have started hating, I mean hugging trees again."

"Hey, can I still be PM of Tasmania at least?"


http://www.themercury.com.au/article/20 ... -news.html

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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by skippy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:31 am

mellie wrote:Gosh, how many more make-overs are we going to see before she gets it?


http://m.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/gi ... 1ooiw.html

We have seen the "New Gillard" reinvent herself and her cabinet direction over and over again yet nothing ever becomes of it.


It's like a soap opera script, you can stop watching them for a month, even a year, then tune in and be exactly where you left off.

The cast may change a little, not always, but it's the same old script.

Ground-hog day in parliament and our media every single day.

Like watching repeats of MASH, gets a little worn after the first 100 or so re-runs repeating themselves over and over again.

:zzzz

I think Australia have woken up to the fact that these re-runs are auto-generated spool, intentionally being trickled to Labors chosen press gallery for the purpose of distribution to allude to the prospect that this government is actually doing something, which it clearly isn't.

Gillard and Tim have left the lodge, did so just in time for the Queens visit, and they have no plans on returning any-time soon, (Year long renovations of an urgent nature were necessary they advised)...

:roll

You can build a brand new home in less than 6 months, a shopping complex in less than a year, but it takes over a year to repair a leaking roof that was in such poor repair, she's advised they not only had to move out, but have declared it hazardous and could take up to and beyond a year to repair?

There was no mention of the lodge being in such poor repair when they moved in last year, why has it suddenly deteriorated to the point whereby she and man-bag had to leave and have not set a date for their return?

I can tell you why...

Because they wont be returning to the lodge, Bill Shorten has probably already moved in...this or is preparing to do so.

:bgrin

They say the show ain't over until the fat lady sings.... does anyone know if Julia can hold a tune?
This is Gillards FIRST cabinet re shuffle,thmellie. :roll

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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by Bart » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:00 pm

Ummm no it isn't.
Gillard changed the cabinet after she disposed of Rudd.
Changed it after the election.
Now she's done it again.


"In the coverage surrounding Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s cabinet reshuffle yesterday, the media rushed to decide which ministers had won or lost. But the focus on who trumped whom in the political stakes ignored the nature of ALP party politics, and belied a misunderstanding of how ministerial performance is really assessed.

A Labor government will always struggle to reconcile its public message with the inevitability of its factional wrangling. This dilemma has been thrown into the spotlight by both the cabinet shakeup and the recent ALP National Conference.
The ALP National Conference: what the public didn’t see

The most striking thing about attending the ALP National Conference earlier this month was watching the party grapple with itself. Labor struggled to present a strong political face to the public while at the same time managing the internal conflict that inevitably surfaces at an event billed as the party’s supreme decision-making forum.

Electoral considerations, pressure from external groups and sections of the rank-and-file, personal ambitions and factional interests all played out over the three days in two very different forms: what the public was allowed to see and what it was not.

The presentation of policy platform and the mantra of “growth, fairness, jobs” took a prominent place on the public stage. Observers also witnessed a series of lively and passionate debates on contentious policy issues such as the mining tax, gay marriage, asylum seekers and the sale of uranium to India.

What the public did not see was the furious negotiation played out in factional meeting rooms, where the outcomes of the votes on these issues were decided. The final decisions and the policy debates were also shaped by months of drafting, consultation and the creation of a conference agenda.

The end result was a rather disjointed set of proceedings, in which the contentious and often emotive debates did not really reflect the inevitability of the final vote on conference motions and amendments.

The 2011 National Conference once again illustrated what we already know about the ALP: the inevitable domination of the “faceless men” of the Labor factions and the often precarious position of the party leader. But it also revealed some of the more interesting indicators of political success.
Mixed messages

Julia Gillard’s announcement of the changes to her ministry yesterday similarly highlights many of these considerations and expectations, and also the crucial distinction between public and private objectives of political management.

Consistent with the “growth, fairness, jobs” slogan, the very public message the reshuffle is trying to sell is one of a stronger focus on industry, innovation, productivity and participation. Gillard has created a new Department of Industry, Innovation, Science, Research and Tertiary Education, which will be overseen by two Ministers: Greg Combet and Chris Evans. Jenny Macklin has been appointed the new Minister for Disability Reform, charged with overseeing the implementation of Labor’s National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Gillard’s new cabinet also sees a record number of women in senior government positions. In her press conference announcing the changes, Gillard promoted these appointments as a positive step in improving the representation and involvement of women within the ministry.

But the message behind the reshuffle becomes more ambiguous when it begins to intersect with considerations of both electoral accountability and party management. Here the rhetoric of “ministerial performance” is often used to justify the promotion or demotion of individuals to and from particular cabinet positions.

In this round of changes, Kim Carr, Robert McClelland and Peter Garrett were seen as the “losers” or “underperformers”. Carr was moved to the outer ministry, McClelland was demoted from Attorney General and Brendan O’Connor was brought in to assist Garrett with education.
What makes a minister?

While the media are quick to label MPs as either “winners” or “losers” in cabinet reshuffles, what we never see is a considered evaluation of how we gauge good or bad ministerial performance. Accountability for policy decisions and their implementation, relationships with key stakeholders and the public, performance within budgetary constraints, working with colleagues and the management of government departments should be key criteria, but more often than not such decisions are reported in terms of political strategy and shoring up the numbers.

Gillard’s authority as leader has already been questioned due to her decision not to remove Carr and McClelland from the ministry altogether. But apart from any objective consideration of performance on the public side of political debate, what seems to have been forgotten is that the practice of a Labor leader appointing her ministry is a relatively new invention. Factional dynamics have always been used within the party as a mechanism of controlling conflict and distributing positions, previously undertaken by a vote of the parliamentary caucus. This is the private reality of a Labor government.

Contrast the reporting of the reshuffle as a series of backroom deals with a prime ministerial press release that pitches these changes as positive and necessary for the government to focus on its priorities, and there is little wonder the public views party government in Australia with a high degree of scepticism.

Unfortunately, and perhaps inevitably, the strong, coherent policy message the government needs to sell in order to meet social expectations obscures questions of ministerial performance and accountability, which should be much more central to how these matters are reported. The reality is that Gillard must also consider the management of personalities, of legitimate internal political conflict and the institutional and electoral pressures that structure political decision-making in Australian party politics.

What we have instead is a scenario similar to the disjointed outcomes of the Labor conference vote. This is a situation in which the public feels as though it is only seeing, or being told, a very small part of the overall picture – one that will only hinder public debate about party government in Australia."

http://theconversation.edu.au/gillards- ... -done-4697
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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by skippy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:52 pm

Ummm no it isn't.
Gillard changed the cabinet after she disposed of Rudd.
Changed it after the election.
Now she's done it again
Do you have links to that fart? because all the news outlets were reporting this was the first change she'd made, you may be right, but I cant remember her making any other CABINET changes, I thought that was the reason the news reports said this was her chance to put HER OWN STAMP on the cabinet, after she'd inherited and STUCK with Rudds. But knowing you are an expert on these things we'll expect links to her other CABINET re shuffles shortly, no doubt.
Interesting you say she changed it after she disposed of Rudd and then after the election, so she only kept the initial CABINET for a couple of weeks ,did she?
The only changes I know of in the CABINET were Rudd replacing Smith and Smith then having to move, not unlike Abbott having to do the same thing with Turnbull, but I know you wouldn't be that stupid nor big enough hypocrite to be using those instances, would you?

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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by skippy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:11 pm

It seems Gillard had changed the CABINET ministry,ONCE before, thanks to the " little aussie battler" that informed me of that. :?

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Re: Gillards dream-team out to steady the ship yet again

Post by Maxine » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:58 pm

Dear God.

This is supposed to be a Political thread?

No other PM had the guts to have the Lodge repaired, so it was left to PM Gillard to do. Not even bloody Howard who stayed in Kirribilly at a cumulative cost of $24million had the sense to have the Lodge repaired.

The ETS is a Labor initiative, thwarted by the Greens once, this time PM Gillard had to include a fixed-price period for the ETS, thanks to the same stupid Greens. That, BTW, does not make it a carbon tax.

FMD, the stupidity never stops.

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