Science a positive influence on society and politics should

[freediver]

But the basic is, you get an idea, try it, evaluate the results, improve on your idea if needed, try again, re-evaluate the results. Repeat as necessary.

So the PA constitution is science in progress?

[boxy]

Not really, unless we're willing to impartially evaluate the results.


It is fucked, has always been fucked... experiment failed.

[freediver]

So it is scientific if you agree with it?

[boxy]

So it is scientific if you agree with it?

Has it ever achieved what it set out to achieve? A stable forum, run by it's members?

The answer is no. The theory that PA could be a self run, democratic forum has been falsified.

I agreed with the premise. The results of the experiment were a disappointment. I got over it, and accepted the results.

[freediver]

So science is more about what you like? If I agreed with your assessment that would make me a scientist?

[boxy]

D'oh.

[freediver]

Does this mean politics is also scientific? If people vote for climate change, then it is right, so long as they were impartial in their assessment?

[mellie]

It's not rocket surgery. Any hairless ape could do it.

- Boxy

It's rocket science, not surgery, ok.

...

[mellie]

I had a bit of a rebel science teacher in high school, who taught us that governments world wide capitalise on predictable events, as history repeats itself this and outcomes of these events are then passed down as wisdom to their offspring.

Some wisdom is shared, some guarded jealously for a variety of reasons.

Ie.. Watch as a comet falls into our sun... October 5 2011

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/outdoo ... he-sun.asp


However.....
Note how in the following article they don't mention a comet falling into our sun which gave rise to our earth enduring the hottest day in October ever recorded, leaving it up to the gullible masses to ponder neurotically themselves.

"Oh, it must be that Global Warming thingy they told us would happen"


http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-n ... -23460226/

Whilst other articles our globalist main stream media indulged us with went so far as to attribute this hot October day to "Climate Change" .

Yu dig?

What caused the hottest October day recorded in history is subjective, true, but whats concerning is that our media are only weighing up one side of the argument.

Our government isn't interested in the science that challenges their policies, are only interested in the science that supports their policy direction.

This is dangerous, we are embarking on dangerous territory here, at a time when we should be demanding transparency and views from a broader church.

[mellie]

My friend who's relative works at the CSIRO along with her colleagues have become increasingly frustrated with the demands being placed on them to go with the flow.
The CSIRO is heavily dependent on commonwealth public funding 70% May 2007 (before Labor) ...but less so now 2010 60%, now their funding is more shall we say diverse, with Korea, China, and a number of other now intra-dependent business, orgs and institutes having jumped on deck.
Now the CSIRO have a commercial obligation to protect it's "partners" privacy, ie their new Solar Tech division, so have to be very careful what they say, now the organsation they work for has to respectfully oblige, whenever it's global partners have an itch they need to scratch, this and not be seen smearing their own organisations name, at the risk of offending those who fund them, "us" the public, already climate skeptic, and quite critical of their process.



An MoU with the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
was signed in February 2010. Now
inaugural joint CSIRO-NOAA meetings
ensure.

Also...

CSIRO and the Global Research Alliance, AusAIDAusAID signed a Strategic
Partnership Agreement that sets out the framework for ongoing strategic cooperation between the organisations.

These agreements and MoU's ..along with individual employee contracts and recent (2010) changes to their orgs FOI disclosure policy are whats preventing their scientists from telling it like it really is.




http://www.csiro.au/files/files/p12dc.pdf