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parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:37 am

Given both Gillard and Rudd failed to complete a full term as leaders, demonstrated gross negligence ( squandering aid, giving little thought to Australian victims of natural disaster, should they be entitled to a $30 million parliamentary PM pension?



How about Keneally, who's sold us off, and left a gaping big hole in the NSW budget to the tune of $4.5 billion...this and cant explain where it went?

Or what about shattering a potentially innocent mans life in pursuit of personal gain?.... Premier Anna Bligh , was she involved in a corruption case which saw an innocent mans life and career destroyed , slapped with a 7 year sentence for sex charges against children?

Gillard knifed Rudd, did Anna Bligh do a little knifing of her own and send an innocent man to jail?

From shredding documents, to 'misplacing' billions of dollars ... to Julia Gillards blatant refusal to heed the audits advice to use secure email accounts, refugees, jailed orphans in adult detention centres, PNG clearview mine atrocity, Alice Springs nuclear run-off, Mark Arbib caught leaking information to foreign agencies...really, do these people deserve a hansom parliamentary pension?


Are they worthy?

How can one government do so much evil in such a short period of time?




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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:12 am

The Greens are the only ones who've ever slagged off parlimentary pensions and polly perks, all the others have been quite happy to put their hand out for more.

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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by Pastafarian » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:32 am

mellie wrote:Given both Gillard and Rudd failed to complete a full term as leaders, demonstrated gross negligence ( squandering aid, giving little thought to Australian victims of natural disaster, should they be entitled to a $30 million parliamentary PM pension?



How about Keneally, who's sold us off, and left a gaping big hole in the NSW budget to the tune of $4.5 billion...this and cant explain where it went?

Or what about shattering a potentially innocent mans life in pursuit of personal gain?.... Premier Anna Bligh , was she involved in a corruption case which saw an innocent mans life and career destroyed , slapped with a 7 year sentence for sex charges against children?

Gillard knifed Rudd, did Anna Bligh do a little knifing of her own and send an innocent man to jail?

From shredding documents, to 'misplacing' billions of dollars ... to Julia Gillards blatant refusal to heed the audits advice to use secure email accounts, refugees, jailed orphans in adult detention centres, PNG clearview mine atrocity, Alice Springs nuclear run-off, Mark Arbib caught leaking information to foreign agencies...really, do these people deserve a hansom parliamentary pension?


Are they worthy?

How can one government do so much evil in such a short period of time?




http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ln ... 1118608974

http://www.apersonalhistory.com/Bill_D%27Arcy/


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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:06 am

I don't have a problem with parliamentary pensions, in fact, we should use them as a carrot, a reward system so they want to do the right thing, serve their nation well, this opposed to themselves, for all the wrong reasons.

My gripe is that these parliamentary pensions are an unconditional given, my god, if you are serving in the armed services, this and broke the law, disgraced your country, this or ended up costing them $4.5 billion , and couldn't/wouldn't even tell you how like Keneally has, this or compromised national security using an insecure email account after already being told doing so could compromise national security, this and even the future prosperity of our nation, this or you were caught secreting intelligence to other nations officials, the way Mark Arbib has, (He wasn't even scrutinized, didn't even deny it), you'd be dishonorably discharged, and probably thrown in prison, charged with espionage, treason, embellishment, fraud, criminal negligence at best.

whats concerning is our apathy towards government corruption whereby we don't even question it when we learn of their conduct, we are almost desensitized, here it so often being downplayed by our media that we think it's acceptable then switch the TV channel to the sport.


But recall how critical we were of Howard and Pete Costello?
Criticism is healthy, it allows us to discriminate (yes, it's ok to discriminate) as this helps us make balanced informed decisions, until wikileaks, our mainstream media had it in the bag, had complete control, we were being drip fed.

This is why Julia Assange is such a threat to this socialist regime, and is also why Gillard has gone to un-Australian lengths to smear an Australian citizen in need of assistance over seas.


84% of people being happy with wikileaks tells us that as a society, we value and crave transparency along with a more accountable government...or else we would shun Wikileaks and go back to reading MSM.

See, money cant buy everything... not everything has a dollar value.


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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:10 am

mellie wrote:I don't have a problem with parliamentary pensions, in fact, we should use them as a carrot, a reward system so they want to do the right thing, serve their nation well, this opposed to themselves, for all the wrong reasons.

My gripe is that these parliamentary pensions are an unconditional given, my god, if you are serving in the armed services, this and broke the law, disgraced your country, this or ended up costing them $4.5 billion , and couldn't/wouldn't even tell you how like Keneally has, this or compromised national security using an insecure email account after already being told doing so could compromise national security, this and even the future prosperity of our nation, this or you were caught secreting intelligence to other nations officials, the way Mark Arbib has, (He wasn't even scrutinized, didn't even deny it), you'd be dishonorably discharged, and probably thrown in prison, charged with espionage, treason, embellishment, fraud, criminal negligence at best.

whats concerning is our apathy towards government corruption whereby we don't even question it when we learn of their conduct, we are almost desensitized, here it so often being downplayed by our media that we think it's acceptable then switch the TV channel to the sport.


But recall how critical we were of Howard and Pete Costello?
Criticism is healthy, it allows us to discriminate (yes, it's ok to discriminate) as this helps us make balanced informed decisions, until wikileaks, our mainstream media had it in the bag, had complete control, we were being drip fed.

This is why Julia Assange is such a threat to this socialist regime, and is also why Gillard has gone to un-Australian lengths to smear an Australian citizen in need of assistance over seas.


84% of people being happy with wikileaks tells us that as a society, we value and crave transparency along with a more accountable government...or else we would shun Wikileaks and go back to reading MSM.

See, money cant buy everything... not everything has a dollar value.


http://www.serendipity.li/cda/cablegate.htm

Also, http://twitter.com/cableleaks


Get updates via SMS by texting follow wikileaks cableleaks to 0198089488 in Australia.
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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:16 am

Youtube banned this, so rutube published it, a word of warning, it's quite sad, a little disturbing also.

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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by mantra » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:17 am

I don't think a PM is entitled to the same lurks and perks as his peers if he/she hasn't completed a full term, but the pensions are a rort. They're not in line with our superannuation and most of the pollies just have to sit on their backsides for 7 years before they're entitled to a King's ransom.

Keneally caused a lot of destruction to this state - prior to becoming premier - but she entered parliament in 2002 or something like that so is entitled to a full pension, although I'm not sure if a premier has to sit for a full term before being entitled to the works - car, gold card etc.

Honesty doesn't play a part in this. They can be paedophiles, thieves, frauds etc. and they aren't penalised.

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Re: parliamentary pensions-are they worthy?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:56 am

mantra wrote:I don't think a PM is entitled to the same lurks and perks as his peers if he/she hasn't completed a full term, but the pensions are a rort. They're not in line with our superannuation and most of the pollies just have to sit on their backsides for 7 years before they're entitled to a King's ransom.

Keneally caused a lot of destruction to this state - prior to becoming premier - but she entered parliament in 2002 or something like that so is entitled to a full pension, although I'm not sure if a premier has to sit for a full term before being entitled to the works - car, gold card etc.

Honesty doesn't play a part in this. They can be paedophiles, thieves, frauds etc. and they aren't penalised.

Be they labor, liberal or greens, transparency + accountability = our only assurance.

And this applies to all world governments, leaders, movers and shakers.

http://www.cableleaks.com/forum/

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