Israeli invasion of Gaza

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skippy

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by skippy » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:36 pm

mantra wrote:
Could also be that those nice, civilised, caring Hamas thugs stored munitions in the school, using the people sheltering there as a human shield.
No. A top official of the UN representing the Palestinian refugees is demanding Israel show proof of this. All refugees were checked for munitions, weapons etc. prior to entering the school and according to him there was nothing fired from this UN declared safe haven school. This is the third school the IDF have blown up.

Did it ever occur to those who keep on with the same old rhetoric that Hamas uses people as shields - that all the Palestinian people are forced to be used as shields because there is nowhere for them to hide?

Perhaps you could also consider this. Since 1948 - over 2 million Palestinians have been killed in comparison to 1500 Jews. The Jews flee one holocaust and create another.

Israel is committing a crime against humanity and along with Bush, his buddies and the rest of the neocon zionist clan - I hope they're brought to trial eventually.
That says it all mantra, 2 MILLION PALISTINIANS 1500 Israel'is,wow, I didn't realise the numbers were that large, how do the jews live with themselves?

mantra.

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by mantra. » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:14 pm

The 2 million deaths cover a span of 60 years Skippy. Half the Palestinian population are children under the age of 18 years. They have produced children very prolifically and lost them just as quickly. Some researchers claim there have been more than 2 million deaths. The faster they try to maintain their population, it appears increased effort is used to eradicate them.

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Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by Rainbow Moonlight » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:22 pm

Have you got a reference link for me to read re that 2 million Mantra?

mantra.

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by mantra. » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:41 pm

There are many sites on Google giving estimates Rainbow and they are all fairly similar. This figure is quoted by "DesertPeace a Jewish Civil Rights organisation promoting active peace and for the Jews and Palestinians to come together. This site just gives a brief summary and as the article states about this huge number of deaths - "Is anyone keeping count - does anyone care"?

There are many good Jewish people who are against the zionists (politically motivated Jews) who are eradicating the Palestinians.

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/0 ... holocaust/

In regard to the Israeli deaths - I went to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs site - http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA

Jovial Monk

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:14 pm

2m in 60 years works out at 92/day. I declare bullshit!

mantra.

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by mantra. » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:22 pm

Prove it Monk. Perhaps we could assume that the 6 million Jews who were slaughtered in the Holocaust was B/S because that means the Germans would have had to kill 10,000 a day to amount to such an exorbitant number.

How did the Germans manage it and conduct a war at the same time?

Jovial Monk

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:56 pm

Dachau, Auschwitz etc. Production line, efficient murder.

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Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by Hebe » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:35 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:2m in 60 years works out at 92/day. I declare bullshit!
So do I. And no, you prove it - you made the claim. That blog's hardly authoritative.
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mantra.

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by mantra. » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:16 pm

And no, you prove it - you made the claim. That blog's hardly authoritative.
It isn't just a blog - but as it is a Jewish organisation, I assumed it may have alleviated any concerns of bias. There is other information supporting these deaths, but it is scattered and records of Arab deaths aren't kept as accurately as Jewish deaths. There might be a thousand one month - then the next another 600, perhaps the next month only 300 and then a couple of months break - but over 60 years - it adds up substantially. I will produce some other links a bit later - but in the meantime to those who dispute these Palestinian deaths - how about some proof that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust?

Or is this irrelevant in relation to Arab deaths - perhaps they are viewed as of no consequence. Or maybe we just have blind faith in our western media and should believe anything we're told?

Is it possible for Hebe & Monk to contribute more than one line at a time and elaborate on why they believe my comments were b/s?

Jovial Monk

Re: Israeli invasion of Gaza

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:28 pm

In early 1979 I was in Munich and made a sidetrip to Dachau concentration camp. Went through the camp Museum. the records, the medical experiments, photos. Fucking dreadfull! The holocaust happened. I also has Mein Kampf here at home somewhere: remember reading a para where Schiklgruber works himself into a paroxysm of rage and disgust and hate: an Orthodox jew had crossed its path.

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