Is there a role for nuclear energy?

[Pastafarian]

Ahh you quoted Helen Caldicott. Nice one, I can therefore delete that bit of evidence as shonky. You talk about the nuke industries bias, as though somehow the Greens, Greenpeace and anti-nuke campaigners have no bias at all and are acting as responsible world citizens.


Furthest thing from the truth.

[Pastafarian]

But then if I address the St-90 issue, to be honest, so what? You haven't specified the more important thing which is how much St-90 there was.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Ahh you quoted Helen Caldicott. Nice one, I can therefore delete that bit of evidence as shonky. You talk about the nuke industries bias, as though somehow the Greens, Greenpeace and anti-nuke campaigners have no bias at all and are acting as responsible world citizens.


Furthest thing from the truth.

I'd trust Helen Caldicot before I'd trust a nuke spruiker, and generally you can deem nuke industry promotional material as complete and utter bull$#!+. Which explains why there's some much documented material countering pro nuke propaganda.

I make no secret of my bias regarding the dirtiest industry on Earth. If it was up to me, pro nukers would have plutonium pendants padlocked to their necks.

But then if I address the St-90 issue, to be honest, so what?

This sort of response typifies the dodgey attitude of the nuke industry. But if I snuck into your house and contaminated your toothpaste and food items in your fridge with radioactive wastes, I'd be considered a terrorist.

You haven't specified the more important thing which is how much St-90 there was.

I don't know the level of contamination, but obviously it was noticeably higher than other areas used as controls, otherwise Sutherland Shire Council wouldn't be able to beat up on AAEC (now ANSTO) over it.

[Pastafarian]

This sort of response typifies the dodgey attitude of the nuke industry. But if I snuck into your house and contaminated your toothpaste and food items in your fridge with radioactive wastes, I'd be considered a terrorist.


I don't know the level of contamination, but obviously it was noticeably higher than other areas used as controls, otherwise Sutherland Shire Council wouldn't be able to beat up on AAEC (now ANSTO) over it.

Depends on dosage and what with.

And whats noticeably higher? Twice? Ten times? Lets be real here, living anywhere we are being irradiated all the time from the food we eat, the liquid we drink and the air that we breathe.

And I find it interesting that Sutherland Shire Council would want to beat up ANSTO over it, considering they seem to have no problem with the Kurnell oil refinery, probably a far greater danger to its inhabitants than ANSTO is. But oh wait, Kurnell supplies more jobs and money.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Apparently the contamination showed up in goats milk. I gather further along New Illawarra Rd, because Menai was mentioned.
I'm on a bodgey borrowed computer and there's some prob with PDFs ... From what I can gather Heather Rice (a nurse) mentioned/reported/cited the incident in writing in 1993, but I remember hearing about it in the early to mid 80s.

[Pastafarian]

Apparently the contamination showed up in goats milk. I gather further along New Illawarra Rd, because Menai was mentioned.
I'm on a bodgey borrowed computer and there's some prob with PDFs ... From what I can gather Heather Rice (a nurse) mentioned/reported/cited the incident in writing in 1993, but I remember hearing about it in the early to mid 80s.

You're quoting something that happened 30 years ago?

[Outlaw Yogi]

Yeh, so? ... its not like the nuke industry has voluntarily improved its practices.
If those running Lucas Heights had their way, they'd still be dumping low level waste (coolant water) into the Woronora River.

[Pastafarian]

Yeh, so? ... its not like the nuke industry has voluntarily improved its practices.
If those running Lucas Heights had their way, they'd still be dumping low level waste (coolant water) into the Woronora River.

Yes that may take the average Sydney sider from 15 mSv to 16.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Forget $100 oil. $100 uranium is a real problem.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/02/news/ur ... /index.htm

[Outlaw Yogi]

Japan warns of small radiation leak from quake-hit plant
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... GO20110311

TOKYO, March 12 (Reuters) - Japan warned there could be a small radiation leak from a nuclear reactor whose cooling system was knocked by Friday's massive earthquake, but thousands of residents in the area had been moved out of harm's way.

Underscoring grave concerns about the Fukushima plant some 240 km (150 miles) north of Tokyo, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. air force had delivered coolant to avert a rise in the temperature of the facility's nuclear rods.

Pressure building in the plant was set to be released soon, a move that could result in a radiation leak, officials said. Some 3,000 people who live within a 3 km radius of the plant had been evacuated, Kyodo news agency said.

Tokyo Electric Power Co said pressure had built up inside a reactor at the Fukushima-Daiichi plant after the cooling system was knocked out by the earthquake, the largest on record in Japan.

Pressure had risen to 1.5 times the designed capacity, the Japan Nuclear Safety agency said. Media also said the radiation level was rising in the turbine building.

The cooling problems at the Japanese plant raised fears of a repeat of 1979's Three Mile Island accident, the most serious in the history of the U.S. nuclear power industry. Experts, however, said the situation was, so far, less serious.