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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:23 pm

McConnell did, however, suggest that Trump should still somehow be held accountable for his words and actions.

'He didn't get away with anything, yet,' McConnell said. 'We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... r-him.html

Seems to me that McConnell wants criminal and civil action, rather than a political response.
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Post by Bobby » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:27 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:12 pm
Bobby wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:00 pm
And the left wingers won't apologise after leading the lynch mob
and having a rope ready for Trump's neck.
nah, the arrogant elitist lying left never apologise for anything
They should be forced to apologise on the political forums.

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Re: Trump is not guilty

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Nom De Plume wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:23 pm
McConnell did, however, suggest that Trump should still somehow be held accountable for his words and actions.

'He didn't get away with anything, yet,' McConnell said. 'We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... r-him.html

Seems to me that McConnell wants criminal and civil action, rather than a political response.
If a person is charged with a crime, indicted, & is put on trial, 12 jurors will eventually have to decide if the prosecution has met it's burden of proof, & if the defendant is guilty or innocent based on the evidence.

They must decide unanimously, meaning all 12 must agree if he is guilty, but if only 1 of the 12 isn't convinced, he can't be found guilty.

No?

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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:59 pm

LearJet wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:06 pm
Nom De Plume wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:23 pm
McConnell did, however, suggest that Trump should still somehow be held accountable for his words and actions.

'He didn't get away with anything, yet,' McConnell said. 'We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... r-him.html

Seems to me that McConnell wants criminal and civil action, rather than a political response.
If a person is charged with a crime, indicted, & is put on trial, 12 jurors will eventually have to decide if the prosecution has met it's burden of proof, & if the defendant is guilty or innocent based on the evidence.

They must decide unanimously, meaning all 12 must agree if he is guilty, but if only 1 of the 12 isn't convinced, he can't be found guilty.

No?
It is equally true that an impeachment trial is not a criminal trial.
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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:09 pm

Nom De Plume wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:59 pm
LearJet wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:06 pm
Nom De Plume wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:23 pm
McConnell did, however, suggest that Trump should still somehow be held accountable for his words and actions.

'He didn't get away with anything, yet,' McConnell said. 'We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... r-him.html

Seems to me that McConnell wants criminal and civil action, rather than a political response.
If a person is charged with a crime, indicted, & is put on trial, 12 jurors will eventually have to decide if the prosecution has met it's burden of proof, & if the defendant is guilty or innocent based on the evidence.

They must decide unanimously, meaning all 12 must agree if he is guilty, but if only 1 of the 12 isn't convinced, he can't be found guilty.

No?
It is equally true that an impeachment trial is not a criminal trial.
Speaking of Trump and criminality....
Earlier today Palmer Report told you that Donald Trump has hired a high profile criminal defense attorney to represent him in the criminal case that the Manhattan District Attorney’s office is bringing against him, which means that Trump expects to be indicted and arrested soon. Now we’re learning what may have led him to this conclusion.

The Manhattan DA’s office has seized boxes of evidence against Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg from his former daughter in law, who is cooperating with the investigation, according to CNN. To be clear, prosecutors wouldn’t have been able to obtain a warrant to require these boxes be turned over, unless it already had some evidence in hand of Allen Weisselberg’s criminal guilt. In other words, he’s screwed.

We’ll see whether Allen Weisselberg ends up cutting a plea deal against Donald Trump. Weisselberg has been personally loyal to Trump for decades. But the more clear prosecutors can make it to Weisselberg that he’s screwed, the more likely it is that he’ll flip out of desperation.

Michael Cohen stated on MSNBC last month that based on what he’s learned from his eight interviews with the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, there’s already more than enough evidence to nail Donald Trump. So even if Weisselberg doesn’t flip, Trump is still screwed. But Weisselberg’s cooperation would make a conviction a slam dunk.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/n ... ion/38053/
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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:23 pm

The NAACP’s lawsuit against Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and extremist groups is about to expand.
According to The Daily Beast, 10 new plaintiffs and additional information will be added Wednesday.
The NAACP brought the suit on behalf of Rep. Bennie Thompson in February after the January 6 riot.

A federal lawsuit targeting former President Donald Trump, one of his lawyers, and far-right extremists in the aftermath of the January 6 Capitol attack is reportedly adding some new heavyweight plaintiffs.

The NAACP’s suit alleging Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and members of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers conspired to incite a riot in an effort to prevent the certification of the 2020 presidential election is expected to add 10 plaintiffs, including other members of Congress, on Wednesday, according to The New York Times and The Daily Beast.

Lawyers for the civil-rights organization brought the suit on behalf of Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi in February and alleged that Trump and his lawyer, in conjunction with far-right extremist groups, violated the 1871 Ku Klux Klan Act by depriving Americans of their civil rights and disrupting the electoral vote count on January 6.

In addition to new plaintiffs, the amended complaint is expected to feature additional information regarding the deadly riot in Washington, DC, according to The Daily Beast, citing two unnamed sources.

During the violent siege, Thompson was among lawmakers who were forced to don gas masks and lie on the floor in an effort to avoid rioters, according to the suit. The Mississippi representative was eventually led out of the Capitol to the Longworth House Office Building, where he sheltered in place with more than 200 other lawmakers, staffers, and family members.

Trump has chosen Jesse Binnall, a Republican lawyer who filed a “Stop the Steal” lawsuit in Nevada, which attempted and failed to overturn the 2020 election results, to represent him in the suit, The Daily Beast reported.

The expanded lawsuit comes as Trump faces a barrage of other legal troubles since leaving office in January.

Prosecutors in Georgia’s Fulton County announced in February that they were officially launching a criminal investigation into whether Trump committed election interference by pressuring Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, to “find” additional votes in the state’s presidential contest. In New York, prosecutors are investigating his financial dealings while the state’s attorney general is investigating whether Trump’s company illegally inflated the value of its assets to score tax breaks.

The former president also faces a lawsuit from two longtime Capitol Police officers, who allege Trump “inflamed, encouraged, incited, directed, and aided and abetted” the mob that caused both men injuries on January 6. Rep. Eric Swalwell of California has also filed a suit against Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Giuliani, and Republican Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama over the insurrection.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/naac ... ?r=US&IR=T
On this date, the House approved “An Act to enforce the Provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and for other Purposes,” also known as the “Ku Klux Klan Act.” Introduced as H.R. 320 on March 28, 1871, by Representative Samuel Shellabarger of Ohio, the bill passed the House on April 6 and returned from the Senate with amendments on April 14. After nearly a week of heated debate in the House and the Senate, the chambers reconciled their differences on April 20 when the House agreed to the conference report on H.R. 320 and the Senate concurred. The Ku Klux Klan Act, the third of a series of increasingly stringent Enforcement Acts, was designed to eliminate extralegal violence and protect the civil and political rights of four million freed slaves. The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, defined citizenship and guaranteed due process and equal protection of the law to all. Vigilante groups like the Ku Klux Klan, however, freely threatened African Americans and their white allies in the South and undermined the Republican Party’s plan for Reconstruction. The bill authorized the President to intervene in the former rebel states that attempted to deny “any person or any class of persons of the equal protection of the laws, or of equal privileges or immunities under the laws.” To take action against this newly defined federal crime, the President could suspend habeas corpus, deploy the U.S. military, or use “other means, as he may deem necessary.” Opponents denounced the bill as an unconstitutional attack on state governments and individual liberty. “All the powers of the Government . . . will be absorbed in the hands of one man,” warned James M. Leach of North Carolina. Administration supporter William E. Lansing of New York rejected the “mischievous doctrine of State sovereignty” and cited the prevalence of “acts of outrage and violence . . . which the States where they occur have either no power or will to prevent.” David P. Lowe of Kansas stressed that the legislation fulfilled the 14th Amendment’s promise of equal protection under the law. “Let the different classes of our populations feel that the interest and welfare of one is the interest and welfare of all.” After both chambers of Congress agreed to the conference report on April 20, President Ulysses S. Grant signed the bill into law later that day. Nearly six months later, in October 1871, Grant used these powers in several South Carolina counties, demonstrating the willingness of the Republican-led federal government to take decisive action to protect the civil and political rights of the freed people during Reconstruction.
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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:27 pm

Evoking the KKK Act against Trump and Rudy is epic!
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Post by Nom De Plume » Mon May 03, 2021 1:07 pm

A Republican state legislator from Oregon who was captured on surveillance video allowing demonstrators to enter the State Capitol in December was charged on Friday in connection with the breach of the building, which led to a conflict between officers and protesters.

The lawmaker, Representative Mike Nearman, 57, was charged with official misconduct in the first degree and trespassing in the second degree, according to court documents.

Marion County prosecutors said in court documents that Mr. Nearman, “being a public servant, did unlawfully and knowingly perform an act which constituted an unauthorized exercise of his official duties, with intent to obtain a benefit or to harm another.”

On Dec. 21, while legislators were in session, Mr. Nearman calmly walked out a side door, allowing several demonstrators, many of them unmasked and holding American flags or pro-Trump signs, inside the State Capitol, in Salem. The moment was captured by widely circulated video surveillance of the breach.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/01/us/m ... sters.html

Another one bites the dust!
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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Thu May 06, 2021 12:24 pm

Washington (CNN)A federal judge criticized Attorney General William Barr on Thursday for his handling of the Mueller report when it was released last spring, saying Barr's early description of the report didn't match the special counsel's actual conclusions.

Judge Reggie Walton asked if Barr's actions were a "calculated attempt" to help President Donald Trump and opined the attorney general had a "lack of candor" with the public and Congress.

"The Court cannot reconcile certain public representations made by Attorney General Barr with the findings in the Mueller Report," Walton wrote on Thursday. Barr's initial publicly announced interpretation of the findings from former special counsel Robert Mueller "cause the Court to seriously question whether Attorney General Barr made a calculated attempt to influence public discourse about the Mueller Report in favor of President Trump despite certain findings in the redacted version of the Mueller Report to the contrary."

Walton's ruling on Thursday came in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, in which a transparency group and news organization have pressed for more access to the Mueller report and other documents since the investigation ended last spring. Walton has expressed doubts about the Justice Department's handling of the Mueller report previously, but the judge's written opinion on Thursday was the sharpest commentary yet on the Department of Justice's handling of the investigation's end.

Barr has been under fire for months for his apparent political moves to protect the President and his allies from within the Justice Department.
Department of Justice spokeswoman Kerri Kupec came to Barr's defense in a statement released Friday and said the court's "assertions were contrary to the facts."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/05/poli ... index.html

So Bill Barr lied to the American people in order to protect Trump!
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Re: Trump is not guilty

Post by Nom De Plume » Wed May 19, 2021 4:36 pm

"We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the Organization is no longer purely civil in nature," spokesperson Fabien Levy told the outlet.

"We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA. We have no additional comment."

The statement did not specify what exactly prompted turning the probe into a criminal one, but New York AG Letitia James's investigation into the organization has been ongoing since 2019.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14999837/ ... stigation/
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