The Left Wing - World Wide

[The4thEstate]

The left worldwide are always complaining!

Because they've started losing.

Average citizens in Western nations are rebelling against globalism and everything that goes with it, including multiculturalism. Brexit ... the election of Trump ... the grand scheme to dissolve borders and import hordes of Third Worlders is getting pushback from people who believe in national sovereignty, homeland security and the right to determine who gets to enter their country.

The globalists have only begun to realize that they seriously overplayed their hand with mass immigration. Even so, the EU is still trying to tell member nations how many Islamic migrants they have to "share" ... and nations like Hungary are telling the EUrocrats to use their migration plan for toilet paper.

Check this out: https://nationalfile.com/slovakia-bars- ... w-mosques/

Slovakia –- along with many other Central and Eastern European countries –- has repeatedly adopted a hard-line stance against the integration of Islam, perhaps overshadowed by right-populist countries such as Poland and Hungary.

According to Voice of Europe, Slovakia is the last EU member state without a Mosque within its borders. At the inception of the 2015 Migrant Crisis, Slovakia refused a small quota of 200 Muslim migrants. An interior minister, at the time, said, “We want to help Europe with the migration issue. We could take 800 Muslims but we don’t have any mosques in Slovakia so how can Muslims be integrated if they are not going to like it here?”

Former Soviet Bloc nations have a little bit of experience with uninvited foreigners.

[Black Orchid]

Good for them! The only country that should dictate who migrates within its borders is the country itself.

From the link ...

He also said, “I talked about this several times with the Maltese Prime Minister, who told me that the problem is not that they were coming, but they are changing the character of the country.

“And we do not want to change the traditions of the country, which is built on Constantine-Methodist tradition.”

Fico later implied that he wished to preserve his country’s cultural heritage–which he believed would be jeopardized by the inclusion of culturally incompatible migrants.

The anti-Islamic stance has not been met without resistance.

In an interview with the Slovak Spectator, the Islamic Foundation in Slovakia said, “The repeated statements of Mr Premier do not only harm Slovak Muslims but also the country’s interests as a sovereign country which is building its position on the international scene.”

I wonder why they have an Islamic Foundation if they don't have Islam?

[Black Orchid]

But but but the leftists claim that it is the right who are aggressive and intolerant.

It is the right in the USA which has ended up killing people. Lets not forget that elephant in the room, Black Orchid. Or would you prefer we just ignored the death toll from the right in the USA, hey?

"The death toll from the right in the USA"??

Like what, exactly? Let me guess -- you're going to include white supremacists and other fringe wackos that mainstream right-wingers completely denounce.

To which I say ... if you think the KKK belongs to the right, then I'll put Islam on the left (since only lefties want to import Muslims into civilized Western nations). Then we'll see which side has the highest death toll on U.S. soil in the past 20 years.

I haven't even mentioned Antifa, which famously caused $100,000 damage to the campus of University of California at Berkeley and beat a conservative journalist till his brain bled. Or the Bernie Sanders fan who shot Republican Congressman Steve Scalise on the baseball diamond and would have wiped out other Republican Congressmen if he hadn't been gunned down by a brave D.C. police officer.

This will be fun!

Let's not forget the swathe of leftist attacks in just the past couple of weeks. Just off the top of my head ...

Attacking 2 kids on bicycles for having flags on their bikes
A woman attacking a man in a red and white hat thinking it was a Trump hat
A guy running his van through a Republican tent in a car park
A lefty ranting on campus about killing the Trump supporters

Many more recently from the loony leftists but my mind is a blank right now.

[brian ross]

But but but the leftists claim that it is the right who are aggressive and intolerant.

It is the right in the USA which has ended up killing people. Lets not forget that elephant in the room, Black Orchid. Or would you prefer we just ignored the death toll from the right in the USA, hey?

"The death toll from the right in the USA"??

Like what, exactly? Let me guess -- you're going to include white supremacists and other fringe wackos that mainstream right-wingers completely denounce.

To which I say ... if you think the KKK belongs to the right, then I'll put Islam on the left (since only lefties want to import Muslims into civilized Western nations). Then we'll see which side has the highest death toll on U.S. soil in the past 20 years.

I haven't even mentioned Antifa, which famously caused $100,000 damage to the campus of University of California at Berkeley and beat a conservative journalist till his brain bled. Or the Bernie Sanders fan who shot Republican Congressman Steve Scalise on the baseball diamond and would have wiped out other Republican Congressmen if he hadn't been gunned down by a brave D.C. police officer.

This will be fun!

What you believe is irrelavent 4E. American definitions of politics run counter to the rest of the world's. White supremacists are on the right side of politics. Muslims on either side - it is a religion afterall. The KKK is on the right side. The right has killed far more than any other forms of politics in the USA. Live with it, it is what you represent. Tsk. tsk.

[The Reboot]

But but but the leftists claim that it is the right who are aggressive and intolerant.

It is the right in the USA which has ended up killing people. Lets not forget that elephant in the room, Black Orchid. Or would you prefer we just ignored the death toll from the right in the USA, hey?

"The death toll from the right in the USA"??

Like what, exactly? Let me guess -- you're going to include white supremacists and other fringe wackos that mainstream right-wingers completely denounce.

To which I say ... if you think the KKK belongs to the right, then I'll put Islam on the left (since only lefties want to import Muslims into civilized Western nations). Then we'll see which side has the highest death toll on U.S. soil in the past 20 years.

I haven't even mentioned Antifa, which famously caused $100,000 damage to the campus of University of California at Berkeley and beat a conservative journalist till his brain bled. Or the Bernie Sanders fan who shot Republican Congressman Steve Scalise on the baseball diamond and would have wiped out other Republican Congressmen if he hadn't been gunned down by a brave D.C. police officer.

This will be fun!

What you believe is irrelavent 4E. American definitions of politics run counter to the rest of the world's. White supremacists are on the right side of politics. Muslims on either side - it is a religion afterall. The KKK is on the right side. The right has killed far more than any other forms of politics in the USA. Live with it, it is what you represent. Tsk. tsk.

Oh this is brilliant.

Here you are, tarring 4E with the same brush as extremists. You are probably too retarded to realize that this sort of thinking is on the same level as people who assume all Muslims are terrorists. Your glorious hypocrisy is on display again. I need to screenshot this shit. Don't ever change, Brian.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Well I grew up with left wing, anti-American, anti-westernised, anti-white politics. So I know the motives, language and ideals from the inside.
My paternal grandfather was openly communist, Lenin and Mao were his heros. He even toured Russia in the 70s so he could come back and tell everyone who good it was.
Both my parents were long standing members of the ALP.
My mother claimed to be socialist, while driving a sports care in a $3K rabbit fur coat. When she went to uni (sociology) as a mature aged student so she could hob-nob with academics she ditched the fur coat and sports car for a gas guzzling Bronco covered in Greenpeace and Abo rights stickers.
My father was successful as a capitalist (2nd richest person in Engadine) and pretty much bank rolled the Engadine branch of ALP.
When my mother became too much of a pest in the party, the branch expelled them on the grounds none of my father's employees belonged to a union. My mother got my father to offer to pay for all the employees union memberships to nullify the expulsion, but none wanted to join.

My mother divorced my father and tried to take all the money and assets. Last I heard she'd joined the NSW Greens, not long before I quit Qld Greens. My father now votes Liberal and remarried to a lib voter.

As a kid I never liked or trusted the ALP figures that frequented our lives.
I initially became critical of the left due to their anti-male support for femi-nazism.
At age 24 (1989) the Keating ALP began their extortionist dipping into my pay packet via compulsory super to bank roll the unions, and I've been dirty on them ever since.

Growing up with politics I always had a cursory interest despite my cynicism for politics itself.
It was the Libs Nick Greiner as NSW Premier that gave me the impression the Libs were far more practical and reasonable, despite those knowing Greiner saying he's an arsehole.

When I view ALP or any left wing org policies they not only seem impractical if not unworkable but actually seem to be designed to bankrupt the jurisdiction they're in charge of or campaigning to win. Over time I've come to realise this is not by accident or plain stupidity, the left have a malicious desire to destroy capitalism by crippling the Westernised world.

And that's why the left support mutually exclusive themes, so long as they're damaging to Westernised societies.
But what worries me the most is their corrupt absurdities are generating a far right public backlash that's likely to usher in an age of vindictive fascism.

[sprintcyclist]

Well I grew up with left wing, anti-American, anti-westernised, anti-white politics. So I know the motives, language and ideals from the inside.
My paternal grandfather was openly communist, Lenin and Mao were his heros. He even toured Russia in the 70s so he could come back and tell everyone who good it was.
Both my parents were long standing members of the ALP.
My mother claimed to be socialist, while driving a sports care in a $3K rabbit fur coat. When she went to uni (sociology) as a mature aged student so she could hob-nob with academics she ditched the fur coat and sports car for a gas guzzling Bronco covered in Greenpeace and Abo rights stickers.
My father was successful as a capitalist (2nd richest person in Engadine) and pretty much bank rolled the Engadine branch of ALP.
When my mother became too much of a pest in the party, the branch expelled them on the grounds none of my father's employees belonged to a union. My mother got my father to offer to pay for all the employees union memberships to nullify the expulsion, but none wanted to join.

My mother divorced my father and tried to take all the money and assets. Last I heard she'd joined the NSW Greens, not long before I quit Qld Greens. My father now votes Liberal and remarried to a lib voter.

As a kid I never liked or trusted the ALP figures that frequented our lives.
I initially became critical of the left due to their anti-male support for femi-nazism.
At age 24 (1989) the Keating ALP began their extortionist dipping into my pay packet via compulsory super to bank roll the unions, and I've been dirty on them ever since.

Growing up with politics I always had a cursory interest despite my cynicism for politics itself.
It was the Libs Nick Greiner as NSW Premier that gave me the impression the Libs were far more practical and reasonable, despite those knowing Greiner saying he's an arsehole.

When I view ALP or any left wing org policies they not only seem impractical if not unworkable but actually seem to be designed to bankrupt the jurisdiction they're in charge of or campaigning to win. Over time I've come to realise this is not by accident or plain stupidity, the left have a malicious desire to destroy capitalism by crippling the Westernised world.

And that's why the left support mutually exclusive themes, so long as they're damaging to Westernised societies.
But what worries me the most is their corrupt absurdities are generating a far right public backlash that's likely to usher in an age of vindictive fascism.

Wow - amazing story. Thanks

I find the lefts ideas and ideals sound much nicer and are more appealing. They can 'say what we want to hear', be it true or not.
'.... We will look after everyone, you don't have to make any personal sacrifice. You can be whatever you want ......'
Unfortunately, their aspirations are impractical and flounder in the real world.

The Right's ideas are more pragmatic. So their statements are not really nice. ' ....Work hard, earn a buck, some people WILL be hungry. .... '
They say 'stuff we don't want to hear'.
Fortunately, their goals are possible and often attained.

Other countries are not here to help us.
We have to protect and defend ourselves if we want to keep what we have.
There are no free lunches.

[brian ross]

Well I grew up with left wing, anti-American, anti-westernised, anti-white politics. So I know the motives, language and ideals from the inside.
My paternal grandfather was openly communist, Lenin and Mao were his heros. He even toured Russia in the 70s so he could come back and tell everyone who good it was.
Both my parents were long standing members of the ALP.
My mother claimed to be socialist, while driving a sports care in a $3K rabbit fur coat. When she went to uni (sociology) as a mature aged student so she could hob-nob with academics she ditched the fur coat and sports car for a gas guzzling Bronco covered in Greenpeace and Abo rights stickers.
My father was successful as a capitalist (2nd richest person in Engadine) and pretty much bank rolled the Engadine branch of ALP.
When my mother became too much of a pest in the party, the branch expelled them on the grounds none of my father's employees belonged to a union. My mother got my father to offer to pay for all the employees union memberships to nullify the expulsion, but none wanted to join.

My mother divorced my father and tried to take all the money and assets. Last I heard she'd joined the NSW Greens, not long before I quit Qld Greens. My father now votes Liberal and remarried to a lib voter.

As a kid I never liked or trusted the ALP figures that frequented our lives.
I initially became critical of the left due to their anti-male support for femi-nazism.
At age 24 (1989) the Keating ALP began their extortionist dipping into my pay packet via compulsory super to bank roll the unions, and I've been dirty on them ever since.

Growing up with politics I always had a cursory interest despite my cynicism for politics itself.
It was the Libs Nick Greiner as NSW Premier that gave me the impression the Libs were far more practical and reasonable, despite those knowing Greiner saying he's an arsehole.

When I view ALP or any left wing org policies they not only seem impractical if not unworkable but actually seem to be designed to bankrupt the jurisdiction they're in charge of or campaigning to win. Over time I've come to realise this is not by accident or plain stupidity, the left have a malicious desire to destroy capitalism by crippling the Westernised world.

And that's why the left support mutually exclusive themes, so long as they're damaging to Westernised societies.
But what worries me the most is their corrupt absurdities are generating a far right public backlash that's likely to usher in an age of vindictive fascism.

Mmmm, this would of course be all the Left's fault? Really?

Nothing what the Right be doing is causing this, at all? Gee, so the antics of Trump, BoJo or Scotty from Marketing doesn't have anything to do with this at all? Nothing? Really? Aw, gee, nice to see you excusing their antics so completely. Tsk, tsk.

I think both sides of politics spark off each other. Both sides are carrying their ideologies rather than using commonsense to control what they doing.

As for Fascism being "vindictive" well, it is by its very nature. Populism enjoys picking out scapegoats. Fascism just carries that one step further, picking out scapegoats and eliminating them. Gee, that is sounding more and more like society today. Tsk, tsk.

[sprintcyclist]

Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz filed an ethics complaint against Nancy Pelosi that said the House speaker possibly violated numerous House rules — and maybe even broke the law — by tearing up a copy of President Trump’s State of the Union speech.

The Florida legislator sent a letter to the House Committee on Ethics requesting that it open an investigation and shared the missive on Twitter.

Gaetz wrote that “Speaker Pelosi’s gesture was deeply offensive and appears to violate clauses 1 and 2 of House Rule XXIII,” which dictate the House’s official code of conduct.

“Her behaviour does not ‘reflect creditably on the House,’ nor does it follow ‘the spirit and the letter of the Rules of the House.'”

Gaetz, in his letter, said Pelosi’s “unseemly behaviour certainly warrants censure.”

The lawmaker asked that after conducting the ethics probe, the committee make referrals to the Department of Justice “for further investigation and prosecution.”

Pelosi, Gaetz alleges in the letter, “appears to be in violation” of a law that prohibits willfully destroying paper or documents “filed or deposited” in public office.

“There is no question that Speaker Pelosi ‘mutilated, obliterated, or destroyed’ the copy of the President’s address provided to her at the beginning of the evening,” Gaetz wrote, quoting language from the law.

After Tuesday night’s State of the Union, Pelosi told reporters that she shredded the papers because it was “the courteous thing to do,” a point Gaetz mentions in his letter as evidence of her alleged wrongdoing.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/06/nancy-pel ... et_4864465

[The4thEstate]

What you believe is irrelavent 4E.

Oh, so you're the resident authority on the American political scene? Pray tell, where is your next lecture?

American definitions of politics run counter to the rest of the world's.

Nobody in America really cares how the rest of the world defines our politics.

White supremacists are on the right side of politics.

And Muslims are on the left side. That's certainly the case in Western nations, where the left supports Islamic immigration and the right opposes it.

Let's consider the three Muslims who serve in U.S. Congress: Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Andre Carson. Guess which political party they belong to. (Hint: It starts with a " and ends with "emocrat.") So does former Congressman Keith Ellison, now the Attorney General of Minnesota.

And gosh ... I can't think of any lefties on this forum who support Islamic immigration, can you?

Muslims on either side - it is a religion afterall.

Wrong, Islam is not merely a religion -- it's also a political and cultural ideology that consumes the existing culture like a parasite devouring its host.

If you doubt me, tell me why the UK has sharia courts. Why couldn't Muslims simply assimilate into the existing British culture and live by the decisions of the established courts?

The KKK is on the right side.

Oh, please ... the KKK is a pathetic shadow of what it once was. Nowadays it has about as much political influence as the Whigs.

The right has killed far more than any other forms of politics in the USA.

Actually, Islamic terrorism has killed far more innocent Americans in the 21st century than any right-wing movement. Go ahead, count the right-wing death toll since 200. Let me know when you get to 3,000.

Live with it, it is what you represent. Tsk. tsk.

Sure, as soon as you live with the massive death toll of Islam.

Not to mention Mao, Castro and other worldwide representatives of the left. All fellow travelers on the left side of the street.