The bullshit thread

[Black Orchid]

Whatever you reckon Brian

[The Reboot]

You have it upside down again. The only hate is coming from those who insist on depriving poor little kids of a cupcake!

As I said, you wouldn't understand so I won't bother trying to explain it to you. You just peddle hatred all the time. Tsk, tsk.

Then what good are you? You're a joke.

Last I checked, this is a debate board, where we are free to express our views whether we agree or disagree. You, for some reason, act like a child each time you read something you don't agree with and lash out with personal attacks. When you are outwitted (which isn't hard, a six year old could do it) you resort to cheap tactics in the vain of, "I know you are, you said you are, so what am I? Ner Ner!" and then accuse/condemn everybody else for treating you the way you treat them.

So come on. Here's a chance for a discussion. "School" us on why cupcakes are so culturally offensive, otherwise, fuck off. Charlatan.

[billy the kid]

The resident moron will disagree with everyone on this forum, irrespective of the topic or the poster.
I have yet to read one of his posts which demonstrates agreeance on any topic whatsoever.
He argues simply because he wants to argue....
How does that make any sense....where is the logic in arguing for the sake of arguing.....
He just argues to gain the attention...just like a child does something for attention....
Definitely a few tiles short of a roof....

[Neferti]

Brian is an ARGUMENTATIVE twit.

What is an argumentative person?
You're argumentative, confrontational and aggressive. ... Being argumentative should be arguing and standing by what you believe in. The toxic side is arguing every point for the sake of it, which then becomes a pit of closed-minded stubbornness.

[billy the kid]

Supercilious comes to mind......

[The Reboot]

The resident moron will disagree with everyone on this forum, irrespective of the topic or the poster.
I have yet to read one of his posts which demonstrates agreeance on any topic whatsoever.
He argues simply because he wants to argue....
How does that make any sense....where is the logic in arguing for the sake of arguing.....
He just argues to gain the attention...just like a child does something for attention....
Definitely a few tiles short of a roof....

Except he isn't even arguing now, he just chases Black Orchid around the forum like a lovesick puppy.

Today in bullshit... another example of our piss-poor "justice" system.

This accused sex offender has been on the run for nine years, so why doesn't anyone know it?

Charles Batham is the aristocratic-sounding Brit who became a fixture in the tropical Western Australian tourist town of Broome and has been described as creepy, charming, and eccentric. He is also an alleged child molester.
Key points:

Charles Batham fled Broome in 2011, accused of multiple child sex offences
His name and image have never been widely publicised
One of his alleged victims and child protection groups say the case highlights a fault in the system

For a decade, Mr Batham was best known for his shock of wiry, ginger hair, and an unconventional lifestyle — living in a converted double-decker bus and taking tourists on ultralight plane tours.

But in 2011 it all fell apart in a paedophilia scandal that exposed not just Mr Batham, but the weaknesses in the international legal system that has allowed him to remain on the run for nine years.

Now the ABC can reveal the alleged sex offender has not only evaded arrest, but been issued with a new British passport under a different name, apparently allowing him to move freely around the world.

"I just feel terrible that this has happened," Broome local, Robyn Maher, said.

"I feel annoyed that he's not had to go to court and face up to what he's accused of doing … and it makes you wonder, what is he getting up to now in some other part of the world?"

For former policeman and child protection advocate Glenn Hulley, the case highlighted weaknesses in the international systems aimed at tracking and catching serious offenders.

"Cases like this definitely highlight the gaps in the system," he said.

"The system has clearly failed, and I think here needs to be an investigation, because the public deserves answers."

Nine years a fugitive

Mr Batham has never been convicted, nor acquitted, of the child molestation accusations because, after being charged, he breached bail and fled to Malaysia.

On the run since February 2011, Mr Batham would now be 77 years old; an aging international fugitive with an Interpol Red Notice out for his arrest.

Nine years on from his absconding, one of his alleged victims has spoken out for the first time.

Vanessa* described not just the devastating effect Mr Batham has had on her life, but her confusion about the hush-hush approach by authorities.

"I spend a lot of time just waiting for a sense of justice or closure, or anything like that," she said.

"I feel like I can't move forward in my life until this is in some way finished."

'Creepy' character

Charles Batham arrived in the Kimberley region in the late 1990s.

He brought an aura of exoticism, telling locals he had broken the world record for riding a motorbike across the Sahara Desert in Africa.

He had a posh English accent and there were vague references to 'old money'; family links to cotton factories in India and business interests in South Africa.

According to urban legend, he arrived with a clutch of illegally-mined diamonds, that he liquidated to fund his fledging Broome trike tour business, which involved ferrying passengers in an ultralight aeroplane up and down Cable Beach.

And then there was the bus, an authentic London double-decker model, which he converted and slept in.

Robyn Maher met Mr Batham early on, when she was running the Broome Visitors Centre.

"If you met him you'd remember him, because he was very tall, he had curly hair, glasses, a colonial accent; so he kind of stood out," she said.

"He was quite creepy … I know that sounds odd, but he was a creepy man."

Her husband Chris Maher, who also worked in the Broome tourism industry, agreed.

"He was an unkempt, scruffy looking guy, with this annoying habit of clearing his throat all the time," he said.

"He wasn't particularly pleasant … you'd get stuck in conversation with him he could be quite domineering."

But like many northern towns, Broome has a knack for adopting oddballs.

Mr Batham soon had a stall at the weekend markets and a cavernous hangar next to Broome airport, complete with bar, office, and an above-ground swimming pool.
Alleged paedophile

The first allegations emerged in 2010.

Police searched Mr Batham's property and seized evidence.

He was charged with two counts of intent to expose a person under 13 to indecent matter, and one count of possessing child exploitation material.

In November of that year he appeared quietly before the Broome Magistrates Court and was released on bail.

By the time the court next convened to hear the case, the allegations had escalated, and Mr Batham now faced 31 charges; including six counts of sexual penetration of a child under 13 and 11 counts of indecently recording a child under 13.

But despite established conditions governing his bail, the then-66-year-old failed to appear at court.

He had fled — jetting out of the country on a commercial flight, according to local police.

"His whereabouts at the moment are unknown," Detective Senior Constable Wayne Davies said at an interview in April 2011.

"We do know that he did leave the country and flew to Kuala Lumpur.

"The bench warrant that's been issued will stand until he's been located and hopefully, with the assistance of foreign police, we will be able to locate him and bring him back to Australia."

But that never happened.

Mr Batham remains a ghost, accused but never convicted, on the run not just from police but from the women who want the chance to prove their stories true.
Waiting for justice

Among them is Vanessa*, who agreed to tell ABC Kimberley her story on the condition of anonymity.

She alleged Charles Batham sexually molested her when she was ten years old.

"He became friendly with my parents," she said.

"He was definitely paying me quite a bit of attention, always keen to talk and give me presents, and get in my good books.

"He was like a sort of an uncle figure, and I trusted him."

But then, she said, he started acting inappropriately, leading to alleged abuse that she only got up the courage to report to police years later, as an adult.

"It's had a big impact on my life, and on my family's life," Vanessa said.

"It's something that I carry with me every day, and it affects me as a parent.

"It's not fair that he has escaped going to court and being held to account."

Interpol wanted list

So, how was Mr Batham able to escape and stay on the run for all this time?

The answer to that is complicated: due to the number of law enforcement agencies involved, Mr Batham's dual citizenship, and the fact that he was accused, but not convicted.

Glenn Hulley is a former police officer, who now runs not-for-profit organisation Project Karma, which works to combat the sexual exploitation of children overseas.

He said Mr Batham's case was particularly concerning.

"I think definitely it highlights the gaps in the system," Mr Hulley said.

"It appears the police did everything they could and obviously I'm not privy to the case.

"But from a public point of view, there have obviously mistakes made, because he's no longer in the country and not able to face court, which is the basis of our judicial and legal system."

In simple terms, Mr Batham was able to leave because the court's bail conditions did not require him to surrender his passport and a request was not made to have him added to the Australian Border Force's 'Movement Alert List', designed to block people from leaving the country.

A 'Red Notice' issued by Interpol appears to have had little effect.

Interpol notices are colour-coded to reflect the urgency of the person being located.

According to Interpol's website, a 'Red Notice' is not as strong as an arrest warrant, but requests "law enforcement worldwide to locate and provisionally arrest a person pending extradition".

WA Police emails obtained by ABC indicate that by 2014, Mr Batham had succeeded in having a new British passport issued under a different name and was recorded boarding a plane in France.

It is not clear why Charles Batham was not detained at these times.

Western Australia's Director of Pubic Prosecutions has said there is no extradition process underway and would not comment on what communication they had with WA Police over Mr Batham's whereabouts.

Social media blackout

There are 62,000 people around the world who have been issued with a Red Notice, because they are wanted in their home country for either prosecution or to serve a sentence.

But only 11 per cent of these are listed publicly, on Interpol's internet database.

Australian authorities have only publicly listed two wanted individuals: one a 40-year-old man facing drugs charges, the second a British national accused of defrauding the Commonwealth.

The identity of the remainder are kept hush-hush, and Australian authorities will not say how many Australian fugitives there are in total.

"They're very tight-lipped with that kind of thing, so we don't have any accurate data on how many Australians would be overseas currently on the run," former policeman Mr Hulley said.

"It can be for tactical [reasons], where it's not appropriate to release someone's name because you're trying to track them … but generally speaking, I think it should be treated like most other serious crimes.

"If there is a person who is wanted by a law enforcement agency in Australia for a significant crime then that is usually made public, in order to try to garnish information from the public about where the person might be."

Those who knew Mr Batham would also like to see his name and face circulated on the internet.

Chris Maher said it would make sense to harness the vast powers of social media to locate him.

"It's an increasingly small world because of social media, so you'd think that would make it easy to track him down," he said.

Vanessa says she has had the same thought, when trawling the internet late at night for any trace of the man she said molested her.

"The secrecy doesn't really make sense to me; surely putting his photo out there would assist in some way with finding him," she said.

"You'd think it would be important that the community knows that there's a potential paedophile on the loose, having free rein in the world."

In a written response to questions, the Australian Federal Police said it was up to the arresting authority — in this case WA police — to decide whether or not to make an alleged offender's identity public.

"Decisions to keep some red notices off the public lists are a matter for each individual law enforcement authority, this is not something the AFP can speculate about," a spokeswoman wrote.

In a response to questions from the ABC, a WA Police spokeswoman deferred to court processes.

"As you say, these are allegations and he has not been convicted," the spokeswoman said.

"If a person is convicted of child sexual offences, the court can declare them a Reportable Offender.

"If a reportable offender absconds, then their face and name can be released."

The eternal fugitive

Mr Batham remains an innocent man in the eyes of the law.

But Broome is an isolated town where the locals have long memories, and the questions remain.

Why did Mr Batham choose Broome? How many other allegations might have emerged if the case finally went to court? And where in the world is he holed up now?

"It's strange — I was raised to believe that bad people get caught, but it turns out that's not true," Vanessa said.

"I always hoped Charles Batham would be caught before he dies, but I don't think that's going to happen."

* Pseudonym used for legal reasons.

Source

Anything to say about this Brian?

Will you defend him because he's a paedophile with human rights, or will you condemn him because he's white?

[billy the kid]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/the ... ticultural

Isnt diversity great..
Who was it that said multiculturalism has been introduced in all white countries simply to destroy
the white race....google it....I wonder how many non white nations have introduced multiculturalism....
Answer...…. none.....

[The Reboot]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/the ... ticultural

Isnt diversity great..
Who was it that said multiculturalism has been introduced in all white countries simply to destroy
the white race....google it....I wonder how many non white nations have introduced multiculturalism....
Answer...…. none.....

From that tweet:

Earlier this month the University announced the relocation and expansion of its Multicultural Student Center as part of an effort to offer a variety of spaces that embrace and support the diversity of this institution. These spaces include an expanded LGBTQ Center, as well as a new Latinx-focused and Interfaith centers.

As for non-white nations and multiculturalism... I mean, what sane person would actually want to go to these shithole countries? Trump had it right there has anybody else noticed that it's the African, Asian and middle eastern nations, as well as some of South America, that restricts people's freedoms if they don't believe in a certain way? The countries themselves are filthy, full of poverty, with tyrannical leaders at the helm which pocket the "foreign aid" money that white countries give them.

And we want to invite this shit to spread to our white, western democratic countries? ... while in no way perfect and with its own set of issues, is still a sight better than those shitholes.

[billy the kid]

How incompetent and penny pinching does the Australian grubberment look to overseas countries..
The source of my morning rant is based around the work for the dole scheme and backpackers.....
The controversy over the work for the dole scheme has been getting some air time lately from
the talking heads.....
The entire scheme is a misnomer..a contradiction in terms....
I was once employed by Centrelink.
The work test for NewStart...or as it was called then...Unemployment Benefits....was as follows:
a) The applicant must be fit and available for work
b) The applicant must be actively seeking work.
Obviously this definition has been altered over the years to suit the grubberments initiatives...
But the underlying definition is the same...
Applicants must be available for work and be actively seeking work.....
How can anyone do that if...…..you are working...for the dole...
The grubberment in its infinite wisdom even gives the unemployed the princely sum of $20
a fortnight to cover travel costs....excellent when fuel is $1.70 a litre (made up of grubberment taxes
and unfettered price gouging to which the grubberment turns a blind eye.....but that's another story...)
If you are on a work for the dole programme, what happens if you are injured on the job....
..perhaps seriously injured....any workers compensation..the grubberment is silent on this issue...
...as always....
By the way, the work for the dole programme extends for six months of the year....six months...
And a job active provider could earn up to $2000 for placing someone in a work for the dole programme…
Something doesn't add up here.....
Disgraceful programme...absolutely disgraceful...
Which brings me to the topic of backpackers...
Apparently the grubberment has decided to give backpackers the opportunity to help out
in fire ravaged disaster zones...the reward for which is an extension of their visa...
More slave labour…
Same questions...what about workers compensation if a backpacker is injured....
How many backpackers have the skills to say drive heavy machinery...
What about other trade skills...plumbing...electrical...building...
I would imagine that a large percentage of them just want to pick grapes...
AND what happened to the incompetent grubberment taxation plan where backpackers
where going to be taxed from dollar one......oh that's right....it was thrown out by a Court
as being an illegal tax......unbelievable...
AND the grubberment now wants them to participate in slave labour assisting in bush fire
disaster zones....
Whilst I applaud the notion of assisting in bush fire disaster zones, this entire scheme
is absolutely ludicrous, laughable and bordering on preposterous...
This is just another incompetent Minister attempting to justify his existence with a
hairbrained idea which is just another example of grubberment claptrap….
Maybe the dole recipients should all be transported to bush fire disaster areas to help
the backpackers....don't laugh...maybe its just around the corner....
Half of them wouldn't know how to hold a fkn hammer......

[The Reboot]

How incompetent and penny pinching does the Australian grubberment look to overseas countries..
The source of my morning rant is based around the work for the dole scheme and backpackers.....
The controversy over the work for the dole scheme has been getting some air time lately from
the talking heads.....
The entire scheme is a misnomer..a contradiction in terms....
I was once employed by Centrelink.
The work test for NewStart...or as it was called then...Unemployment Benefits....was as follows:
a) The applicant must be fit and available for work
b) The applicant must be actively seeking work.
Obviously this definition has been altered over the years to suit the grubberments initiatives...
But the underlying definition is the same...
Applicants must be available for work and be actively seeking work.....
How can anyone do that if...…..you are working...for the dole...
The grubberment in its infinite wisdom even gives the unemployed the princely sum of $20
a fortnight to cover travel costs....excellent when fuel is $1.70 a litre (made up of grubberment taxes
and unfettered price gouging to which the grubberment turns a blind eye.....but that's another story...)
If you are on a work for the dole programme, what happens if you are injured on the job....
..perhaps seriously injured....any workers compensation..the grubberment is silent on this issue...
...as always....
By the way, the work for the dole programme extends for six months of the year....six months...
And a job active provider could earn up to $2000 for placing someone in a work for the dole programme…
Something doesn't add up here.....
Disgraceful programme...absolutely disgraceful...
Which brings me to the topic of backpackers...
Apparently the grubberment has decided to give backpackers the opportunity to help out
in fire ravaged disaster zones...the reward for which is an extension of their visa...
More slave labour…
Same questions...what about workers compensation if a backpacker is injured....
How many backpackers have the skills to say drive heavy machinery...
What about other trade skills...plumbing...electrical...building...
I would imagine that a large percentage of them just want to pick grapes...
AND what happened to the incompetent grubberment taxation plan where backpackers
where going to be taxed from dollar one......oh that's right....it was thrown out by a Court
as being an illegal tax......unbelievable...
AND the grubberment now wants them to participate in slave labour assisting in bush fire
disaster zones....
Whilst I applaud the notion of assisting in bush fire disaster zones, this entire scheme
is absolutely ludicrous, laughable and bordering on preposterous...
This is just another incompetent Minister attempting to justify his existence with a
hairbrained idea which is just another example of grubberment claptrap….
Maybe the dole recipients should all be transported to bush fire disaster areas to help
the backpackers....don't laugh...maybe its just around the corner....
Half of them wouldn't know how to hold a fkn hammer......

I worked in employment services for two years. It's an absolute disgusting joke of an "industry". So I can provide a little information on the subject.

Now, by law, people on Newstart with severe injuries (and in some cases, mental issues) aren't supposed to do WFD. It is illegal and they should either volunteer somewhere that doesn't aggravate injury, or study. However, this information is kept from the people on the dole, among other things. This is done deliberately by the job network provider.

Now, the gov has done a slimy thing. Job network providers are NOT the government. They are in fact businesses, hired as a proxy between the people on welfare, and the government. At the same time this was brought in, the gov axed a lot of Centrelink staff, replacing them with a robot on the phone. No longer can people actually ring their local Centrelink office, so if you're out in the boonies you have to wait on the phone for up to 8 hours or get in the car and travel to the nearest town that houses an office, which could be 5 hours away, especially if you live in WA!

As much as I despite the Gov, it's also the Job Network Providers who are grubs. They have to fill quotas, or rather, "KPIs". Target based bullshit in human services is an abomination, as making money is more important than actually helping people get into work. I know this because I was one of their minions. I was the dickhead that would cop the brunt of dole recipient's wrath when they don't wanna do something, but often their anger is justified when the job network provider only gives a toss about placing them in a WFD program and not actually helping to get them jobs.

I will give an example here. I had to do "outreach" which involved going to small towns in the wheatbelt. In those small towns, the job network provider couldn't be bothered with them or spend any money towards them, so it was basic. "Yep, here's a WFD program. Hire a supervisor, I don't care what they do. Do pensioner's yards or something. Oh, and you as the case manager has to monitor it, even though you have 20 appointments today. P.S don't tell them that they don't have to do it, by law, if their back's broken."

I have seen so much money wasted on this BS. Why not use that money to create jobs? It always pissed me off. Especially the obsession with WFD.

I was "let go" due to neurological impairment late last year. I had early symptoms of MS which fucked me a bit, but I'm okay now. I found employment elsewhere and it's a lot less stressful than the farce that is employment services, so it worked out for the best really. I'm thinking of upskilling, maybe get into study cyber security as that industry is set to boom apparently.