ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
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- Black Orchid
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
Everyone can't just jump on the gravy train. That's definitely a lefty ideal and it just doesn't work in the long term.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
- Redneck
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
Peoples expectations change when money is involved, everyone isnt as pure as BO!Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:25 pmEveryone can't just jump on the gravy train. That's definitely a lefty ideal and it just doesn't work in the long term.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
I just think everyone who was at the frontline should be offered the payment including pensioners, unemployed, or even on small SMSF funds in the interest of harmony within the ranks,
otherwise I am sure some will get the sh1ts seeing themselves not being appreciated and leave RFS!
They should have the option of refusing it or donating it to the victims.
As far as volunteers from Overseas countries are concerned I think that would have to be left up to the government of the country they came from
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
Dis me all you want but saving people's lives, livelihoods and homes and saving what's left of the habitat of hundreds of thousands of dead and displaced animals should not become a political handout argument imo. *shrug*
- Redneck
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:14 pmDis me all you want but saving people's lives, livelihoods and homes and saving what's left of the habitat of hundreds of thousands of dead and displaced animals should not become a political handout argument imo. *shrug*
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
in my younger days I did meals on wheels when we lived down the coast.
..eventually we were given a $2 voucher for petrol we thought we had won the lottery.
it isnt that you want reward but when its costing the volunteer each time
and its usually the same ones.. a little can go a long way...but no it shouldnt be
and automatic thing...but you know volunteers get very little thanks..
I speak from experience..
..eventually we were given a $2 voucher for petrol we thought we had won the lottery.
it isnt that you want reward but when its costing the volunteer each time
and its usually the same ones.. a little can go a long way...but no it shouldnt be
and automatic thing...but you know volunteers get very little thanks..
I speak from experience..
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
Them Lefties can smell a handout from 100 meters.
Every handout is an opportunity to try to include other handouts.
Give us a handout
Give us a handout
Come on ScoMo
give us a handout again.
Maybe this is the way to trick the Lefties into working - set up "volunteering" and then give a hero's reward.
This might work with fruit picking and catching cane toads!!!!
Every handout is an opportunity to try to include other handouts.
Give us a handout
Give us a handout
Come on ScoMo
give us a handout again.
Maybe this is the way to trick the Lefties into working - set up "volunteering" and then give a hero's reward.
This might work with fruit picking and catching cane toads!!!!
- Neferti
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
The proposed payment is for those volunteers who are not getting paid by their employer because they are not "working". Public Servants already get some sort of payment, extra. Pensioners (Aged) still get paid their Pension. The unemployed are still getting their tax-free benefits. People who volunteer their precious time because that is the type of person they are, will still do so. Anybody who gets the shits because some people will get a payment, probably shouldn't call themselves "volunteers".Redneck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:02 pmPeoples expectations change when money is involved, everyone isnt as pure as BO!Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:25 pmEveryone can't just jump on the gravy train. That's definitely a lefty ideal and it just doesn't work in the long term.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
I just think everyone who was at the frontline should be offered the payment including pensioners, unemployed, or even on small SMSF funds in the interest of harmony within the ranks, otherwise I am sure some will get the sh1ts seeing themselves not being appreciated and leave RFS!
They should have the option of refusing it or donating it to the victims.
As far as volunteers from Overseas countries are concerned I think that would have to be left up to the government of the country they came from
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
We shall see what happens!Neferti~ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:50 pmThe proposed payment is for those volunteers who are not getting paid by their employer because they are not "working". Public Servants already get some sort of payment, extra. Pensioners (Aged) still get paid their Pension. The unemployed are still getting their tax-free benefits. People who volunteer their precious time because that is the type of person they are, will still do so. Anybody who gets the shits because some people will get a payment, probably shouldn't call themselves "volunteers".Redneck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:02 pmPeoples expectations change when money is involved, everyone isnt as pure as BO!Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:25 pmEveryone can't just jump on the gravy train. That's definitely a lefty ideal and it just doesn't work in the long term.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
I just think everyone who was at the frontline should be offered the payment including pensioners, unemployed, or even on small SMSF funds in the interest of harmony within the ranks, otherwise I am sure some will get the sh1ts seeing themselves not being appreciated and leave RFS!
They should have the option of refusing it or donating it to the victims.
As far as volunteers from Overseas countries are concerned I think that would have to be left up to the government of the country they came from
- Neferti
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
Indeed we will.Redneck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:53 pmWe shall see what happens!Neferti~ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:50 pmThe proposed payment is for those volunteers who are not getting paid by their employer because they are not "working". Public Servants already get some sort of payment, extra. Pensioners (Aged) still get paid their Pension. The unemployed are still getting their tax-free benefits. People who volunteer their precious time because that is the type of person they are, will still do so. Anybody who gets the shits because some people will get a payment, probably shouldn't call themselves "volunteers".Redneck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:02 pmPeoples expectations change when money is involved, everyone isnt as pure as BO!Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:25 pmEveryone can't just jump on the gravy train. That's definitely a lefty ideal and it just doesn't work in the long term.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
I just think everyone who was at the frontline should be offered the payment including pensioners, unemployed, or even on small SMSF funds in the interest of harmony within the ranks, otherwise I am sure some will get the sh1ts seeing themselves not being appreciated and leave RFS!
They should have the option of refusing it or donating it to the victims.
As far as volunteers from Overseas countries are concerned I think that would have to be left up to the government of the country they came from
I am not so sure that Morrison is doing the right thing but guess he is still feeling guilty about his trip to Hawaii. Throwing OUR money around and if people get their knickers in a twist, so beit. However, those who do volunteer will do so, regardless.
- Redneck
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner
I guess my concern was some will some wont!Neferti~ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:02 pmIndeed we will.Redneck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:53 pmWe shall see what happens!Neferti~ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:50 pmThe proposed payment is for those volunteers who are not getting paid by their employer because they are not "working". Public Servants already get some sort of payment, extra. Pensioners (Aged) still get paid their Pension. The unemployed are still getting their tax-free benefits. People who volunteer their precious time because that is the type of person they are, will still do so. Anybody who gets the shits because some people will get a payment, probably shouldn't call themselves "volunteers".Redneck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:02 pmPeoples expectations change when money is involved, everyone isnt as pure as BO!Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:25 pmEveryone can't just jump on the gravy train. That's definitely a lefty ideal and it just doesn't work in the long term.
If I was a volunteer I certainly wouldn't expect to get paid if I were working in the periphery of the front line. I guess we all just have different standards and expectations.
I just think everyone who was at the frontline should be offered the payment including pensioners, unemployed, or even on small SMSF funds in the interest of harmony within the ranks, otherwise I am sure some will get the sh1ts seeing themselves not being appreciated and leave RFS!
They should have the option of refusing it or donating it to the victims.
As far as volunteers from Overseas countries are concerned I think that would have to be left up to the government of the country they came from
I am not so sure that Morrison is doing the right thing but guess he is still feeling guilty about his trip to Hawaii. Throwing OUR money around and if people get their knickers in a twist, so beit. However, those who do volunteer will do so, regardless.
Its like the family will, once money is involved who knows what will happen!
I was just thinking of maintaining harmony between the troops with an opt out if you wish to option
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