Nazi Muslim double standard.

[Valkie]

You beat him again Bogan.

When bwyannnnnnnnn starts telling you to play in the playground with others his same age, it's simply code for......

CANT ARGUE WITH THAT, SO ILL INSULT YOU.

[Bogan]

Brian Ross wrote

You really, really are quite deluded, John. Quite strange in your thinking. I am honest. I am not racist.

You are a racist, Brian, and you are dishonest. Here are your racist quotes about Americans, Jews, and white people in general.

Perhaps, if "Whitey" wasn't around, they wouldn't have many of those problems to contend with, F & N. Bit of a chicken and egg issue, really - which came first? Black peoples' inadequacies or "Whitey's" imperialism which created those inadequacies?

So? Are you claiming that Australians weren't Xenophobic, John?

I don't detest Americans. In fact I quite like them. They provide me with endless hours of amusement and I actually believe they have considerable potential, once they shed their arrogance to be sensible people.

Many Americans have insufferable hubris and almost completely lack empathy for any point of view other than their own. Their ignorance about any other society is another annoying feature. Their belief in exceptionalism of course is rather annoying as well. Oh, and their propensity for electing fools to lead them but perhaps that's a symptom of the previous points?

Ever been to India, John-boy (to continue in your vein of southern redneckism)?

The first wave of Americans were welcomed in Brisbane but the latter waves weren't. They brought their usual hubris and arrogance, John. The result was the "Battle of Brisbane" or didn't your mother tell you about that. The usual comment was "Over-paid, over-sexed and over here."

Everytime I lift up a rock I find a lot of slaters underneath which hate the light being shone on their activities and that is how I feel often about the US Government and many Americans.

You put three Jews in a room and you'll get four opinions. You put three Muslims in a room and you'll have a schism followed by a civil war. You put three Christians in a room and they'll be playing "pass the parcel" faster than you can blink an eye.

These are your own words, Brian, and you know that they are your own words. And they are racist. Brian Ross is a racist. Look at your own words and face the black and white truth. You are Elmer Gantry who just got caught in the church belfry with a bottle of whiskey and a naked woman, and you are trying to deny it. You are lying if you claim they are not your own words. You are lying to me, and what is infinitely worse, is that you are lying to yourself.

It is obvious why you need to lie so outrageously. Your carefully crafted image is that of a moral puritan valiantly struggling against the forces of sin. But confronted with your own sin, instead of confessing, you just lie about it and go on pretending that you are a font of moral virtue. You can't admit the truth or your whole carefully crafted self image will come crashing down.

Your lying attitude is the problem of leftism in a nutshell. Lefties don't care about the truth, all they care about is their own self image Their image is that of being members of a caste of intelligent and morally virtuous people who are superior to everybody else in society. Nothing else is important. Not the welfare of their people, the continued propagation of western culture, their nations borders, or the nations economy.

This is why it is so hard to debate with card carrying Leftists. Their opinions are geared to their self image. Proving them wrong also proves to them that their own self image is wrong. They can not face the fact that they are not super intelligent entities who are the font of all that is good and holy. They would rather lie and even pretend that their own racist words are not their own, than speak the truth, and debate on an honest and rational level.

The only good thing about debating lefties is that you can make an impression on the intelligent young ones, who like the Hitler Youth, has been indoctrinated so much that their capacity for reasoned thought about political and social subjects has been completely eroded. All I need to do is to keep pointing out the lies, hypocrisy, double standards, and contradictions of the left, and the smart young lefties start thinking straight.

That is why you chucked me off your own debate site and why I only lasted two posts on New Matilda. You lefties have lost the debate because you logic is so bankrupt that you have to lie to everybody, including yourselves. Just like those ANTIFA morons, all you can do is to try and stifle debate using any tactic necessary.

[The4thEstate]

Your lying attitude is the problem of leftism in a nutshell. Lefties don't care about the truth, all they care about is their own self image Their image is that of being members of a caste of intelligent and morally virtuous people who are superior to everybody else in society. Nothing else is important. Not the welfare of their people, the continued propagation of western culture, their nations borders, or the nations economy.

Actually, I think lefties' hypocrisy, including their casual regard for the truth and the various other behavioral flaws you mentioned, are simply a means to an end.

Above all, what they really seek -- and all they really seek -- is power.

That's why Democrats pretended to care about the DACA recipients (illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. as children), then when Trump offered to legalize them as part of a broader plan, the Dems suddenly stopped boohooing about the plight of those poor children (many of whom are now pushing 40 years old).

Because it was never about children, just as it was never about Russian collusion, just as it's not really about a phone call with the Ukrainian president.

It's about finding something -- anything -- to get Trump out of the White House and, most importantly, themselves back in.

Power. All roads on the left lead to it.

[Bogan]

Oh, yes, definitely, 4E. Power is what the guys at the top want. But for the average rank and file, what they want is to puff up their ego. The lefties at the top know that, and they craft their messages to their supporters to appeal to their sense of superiority and caste membership.

Their message is, "You are the educated and intelligent ones. You are morally superior to everyone else. These are the causes which intelligent and morally superior people like you must support."

And just like an adolescent smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol because they want so desperately to appear adult, the young trendies just accept the programming and mouth the slogans without ever thinking about whether or not the slogans make any sense in the first place. What is important is their perception of themselves as being part of a high status class of superior people.

That many people are obsessed with their status is all around you. Middle and upper class people drive BMW's, Mercedes Benz's, Porches, and Rolls Royce's as symbols of their status. Even addresses and house size's are important. Working class people have different tastes, and the status conscious among them may be attracted to muscle cars, tricked up SUV's, or the latest firearms or carbon fibre fishing rod. Educated elites are attracted to status as well. Trendies like their symbols of status too. But one important status symbol for them which displays their class identity, is their attitudes to certain causes.

That is how a cause like HIGW, which has the potential to destroy western economies and cause untold hardship on everybody, can be supported by the educated elites. They have been conditioned to think that morally superior people do not worry about hardship when it comes to doing the "right" thing. And since most of them work for the government, their jobs are probably secure anyway. So they can still strut and preen and tell coal miners in Australia (coal and steel are Australia's biggest exports by a wide margin) that sorry, you are going to have to lose your jobs in order to Save the World. An example of that came when a convoy of 700 cars left the government subsidised state of Tasmania full of Green voters, and they drove 2000 klms. to the coal mining areas in the State of Queensland. The locals met the convoy with two fingers full of righteous indignation, and a few bricks. The urban elites met the deplorables, and it wasn't pretty.

Getting back to Brian Ross. Brian Ross preaches that it is wrong to stereotype. But he does it himself, and he knows he does it himself. He preaches that individuals must not be judged by their group associations. But he does it himself, and he knows he does it himself. He claims racism is wrong. But he is a racist himself, and he knows he is a racist himself. Nobody can behave that way unless there is a very good reason why they quite openly contradict the very moral principles that they demand everybody else must abide by. And that is that they think that they are so special that the rules of behaviour that they insist are absolutely essential for their inferiors, need not apply to them.

Just look at all the rich celebrities jetting around the world on their private jets and talking down to the rest of us about global warming.

Their status, self image, and social position, are the only thing that matters. Truth and logic are a long way behind.

[brian ross]

Brian Ross wrote

You really, really are quite deluded, John. Quite strange in your thinking. I am honest. I am not racist.

You are a racist, Brian, and you are dishonest. Here are your racist quotes about Americans, Jews, and white people in general.

You show a deep, sad, misunderstanding of what "racism" is, John. Deep, 'cause you completely miss the point, sad 'cause you foolishly believe that you are correct, no matter how often it is demonstrated that you aren't. Tsk, tsk.

As for the issue of my honesty, you really are quite foolish on that issue as well. You never present validated evidence that I have "knowingly told an untruth", you just make the accusation like a child who has been denied their go on the swings. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.

Indeed, your entire attitude is that of a small child, John, not a grown adult. Your ability to debate any topic is severely limited because you invariably resort into childish insults when you find you've been, again, thwarted. It appears that you just can't win, doesn't it? It makes me wonder why you keep coming back, just to have your face rubbed once more in your own inadequacies as a debater.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Just like the Muslims, the Nazis hated the Jews, and thought that they were so superior that they had a right to kill anyone who was not one of them, and conquer the world for themselves.

Not sure of the relevance but it's a historical fact that the Nazis did a deal/pact with the Muslim Brotherhood in Lebanon during WW2.
But then with Hitler and much of the Third Reich elite being vegetarian they would have double crossed the Mozzies just like they did Rothschild Bank (Jews) the Catholics and Ruskis.

Must admit the Nazis were a fascinating bunch .. for socialists ... Spoze that's why they thought they were superior and had a right to exterminate those they deemed sub-human - Slavs, Gypsies, Jehovah Witnesses, Jews, Gays, retards ect ect.

Something not commonly known is that the Nazis appropriated the term "Master Race" from the Jews' 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion'. Which is a document that was circulating from around the 1870s setting out how to take over the world by getting everyone else in debt and going to war against each other. The Jews themselves claim the document is a forgery, but there's no doubt most non Jews from the former Austro-Hungarian Empire believed it to be genuine.

I don't know if the burka is a militant garment or not, I thought it was more a statement of being "owned" by a Mozzie.
Someone once told me the fasting during Ramadan is "preparation for war" ... to toughen the devotees up, as food shortages in war is normal.

Recently some Jews in Oz were campaigning to have the Swastika banned/prohibited/outlawed.
Now considering that the Swastika is actually a Hindu symbol signifying evolution and righteousness (Ganesh the elephant headed god has a Swastika and an Omkara on the palms of his hands) which the Buddhists borrowed and the Nazis copied from Tibetan Buddhists, the Jews should be careful what they ask for lest the Star of David be banned or tattooed on their foreheads.

For those who like to take offense, before you label me anti-Semite I should let you know my step grandfather's name was Jacobson (Ashkenazi Jew).
Technically the Ashkenazis being Eastern European have no genetic connection with the Semitic tribes of North Africa whatsoever. Separdic (pronounced "shepardic") Jews and Arabs are the descendants of the Semitic tribes.

The Separds are ethnically Jewish (Semitic) and the Ashkenazis are Jewish by adoption of the religion by their ancestors.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Actually, I think lefties' hypocrisy, including their casual regard for the truth and the various other behavioral flaws you mentioned, are simply a means to an end.

Above all, what they really seek -- and all they really seek -- is power.

That's exactly what I've been stating for quite some time now.

They can pervert the language all they want, but actions still speak louder than words.

[Valkie]

Brian Ross wrote

You really, really are quite deluded, John. Quite strange in your thinking. I am honest. I am not racist.

You are a racist, Brian, and you are dishonest. Here are your racist quotes about Americans, Jews, and white people in general.

You show a deep, sad, misunderstanding of what "racism" is, John. Deep, 'cause you completely miss the point, sad 'cause you foolishly believe that you are correct, no matter how often it is demonstrated that you aren't. Tsk, tsk.

As for the issue of my honesty, you really are quite foolish on that issue as well. You never present validated evidence that I have "knowingly told an untruth", you just make the accusation like a child who has been denied their go on the swings. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.

Indeed, your entire attitude is that of a small child, John, not a grown adult. Your ability to debate any topic is severely limited because you invariably resort into childish insults when you find you've been, again, thwarted. It appears that you just can't win, doesn't it? It makes me wonder why you keep coming back, just to have your face rubbed once more in your own inadequacies as a debater.

This from a 16 year old who pretends to be a man.

With 348743 doctorates and thousands of years of world travelling experience.

Dr Google extraordinaire, without who he could simply not function.

Go bwyannnnnnnnn

When you grow up and actually do something, anything, your attitude might change.

[Bogan]

Brian Ross wrote

You show a deep, sad, misunderstanding of what "racism" is, John. Deep, 'cause you completely miss the point, sad 'cause you foolishly believe that you are correct, no matter how often it is demonstrated that you aren't. Tsk, tsk.

Oh, I don't know what racism is, Brian? I have in your "Clangers" file, seven racist statements by you, and one racist joke. First you lied, and claimed that they were not your own words. How moral is that, Brian? And now you are implying that they are not racist, because I am the one who does not know what racism means. Of course, you could have enlightened everybody and told us what your definition of racism is? But you were not going to do that until you figured out a way to redefine the word "racism", to make it apply to me only, and not your own clearly racist statements. Rotsa ruck with your mental gymnastics trying to do that.

You really do fascinate me Brian. Here is a man who is so morally pure and anti racist that he can not even recognise his own racism towards his own people. And when confronted by it, he lies and obfuscates. A man who claims that judging and stereotyping individuals by their group associations is utterly wrong, but when he routinely gets caught doing it himself, tries to justify his own misdeeds and just keeps repeating his self stated sin, over and over again.

Are you mad? How the hell can you convince people that racism is absolutely wrong, when you do it yourself? How can you preach what is absolutely right and absolutely wrong, and then violate your own absolutes? And not even recognise it when you are doing it yourself? And then, when it is brought to your attention, you try to justify breaking your own absolute? At the very least you could modify your moral position to a more defensible posture. Something like "racism is not necessarily wrong, just like the "seven deadly sins", it is more a matter of circumstance and degree." Or "stereotyping is not wrong, because everybody does it, but care should be taken to recognise that not everybody will fit the stereotype."

I remember a quote from you to 4E once, which sadly I did not write down in your "Clangers" file. You were berating the USA for violating it's own principles, and you said something to the effect of "people who promote certain moral values and then break them themselves, are doubly damned." Well, you are doubly damned, Brian. Because you break your own morality all the time, and you even lie to pretend you don't. Or you find another way to justify your own violations.

It is just amazing how you have this need to think that you are morally superior, and when confronted with the evidence that you are no different from the people that you condemn, you feel the need to lie about it to unsuccessfully maintain your moral purity. No "Ah have sinned, Lord!" for you. Your need to be perceived as a pillar of moral purity amounts to an obsession. If you weren't so dangerous to your country, your people, and your culture, I would feel sorry for you.

Briney wrote

As for the issue of my honesty, you really are quite foolish on that issue as well. You never present validated evidence that I have "knowingly told an untruth", you just make the accusation like a child who has been denied their go on the swings. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.

I posted up seven racist statements and one racist joke by you from your clangers file. They are your own racist statements, and you know they are your own words. Yet you still maintain that racism is wrong, and that you are absolutely anti racist. That is pure dishonest hypocrisy, Brian. Confront your need to lie to justify your moral purity. Is that the action of a true moral superior?

Briney wrote

Indeed, your entire attitude is that of a small child, John, not a grown adult. Your ability to debate any topic is severely limited because you invariably resort into childish insults when you find you've been, again, thwarted. It appears that you just can't win, doesn't it? It makes me wonder why you keep coming back, just to have your face rubbed once more in your own inadequacies as a debater.

I used to think I could win against educated trendy lefties simply by using logic and good arguments, Brian. With the smart ones who have open minds, I still can. But I keep coming up against people like you who know that they have to lie to pretend that they are not racists themselves, who routinely violate their own stated principles, but keep pushing their ideology no matter what facts, arguments, or logic you throw at them.

You can't beat people who say they are anti racists, who make racist statements themselves, and then lie and claim they did not do it. And then imply that their racist statements are not racist, because their opponent does not know what racism is. But they won't tell them what their idea of racism is anyway. Because they know they can't do that without boxing themselves in with their own words.

Slippery little buggers. The only good thing about it is that you can demonstrate to the younger minds just how bankrupt the logic of trendy lefties really is. No wonder those ANTIFA brown shirts scream, disrupt, harass, attack, and glue themselves to roadways, because their ideology is so bereft of logic that they know they can't convince anyone except obsessive/compulsive bipolar teenage girls that their causes are just.

[brian ross]

Indeed, your entire attitude is that of a small child, John, not a grown adult. Your ability to debate any topic is severely limited because you invariably resort into childish insults when you find you've been, again, thwarted. It appears that you just can't win, doesn't it? It makes me wonder why you keep coming back, just to have your face rubbed once more in your own inadequacies as a debater.

Seems you want your face rubbed again...