Will Australia be forced to take ISIS fighters back?

[Black Orchid]

Australia may be forced to accept three Islamic State fighters in Turkish custody as Ankara begins repatriating foreign fighters to their homelands.

Turkey has so far sent up to 10 fighters back to Britain, the US and Germany, saying it cannot continue to house them, even as the governments have rejected taking their fighters back and have cancelled passports.

The Australians are among 959 foreign IS fighters and families in Turkish custody in northern Syria.

Turkey’s ambassador to Australia, Korhan Karakoc, told News Corp that Ankara wants Canberra to co-ordinate the return of the men.

Efforts were under way to repatriate “a few” suspected Australian Isis prisoners, whom Karakoc was unable to identify. But he said Turkey wants the Australian government to co-ordinate their return.

“Turkey, at this stage, is not in a position to take a unilateral step because we have to co-ordinate, at the end of the day,” he said. “It really requires some formalities. The Australian side should be willing to accept them.

“We certainly want to send them away so you can handle them here in their country. But it would take some time.”

He said the Australian government was reluctant to take the men back.

Karakoc’s comments came as the ABC reported the United States was offering to rescue the Australian families of Islamic State fighters trapped in Syria.

US counter-terrorism official Nathan Sales said “military assets” could be involved in rescuing the Australian families.

“We need to get these kids, their parents and the fighters out of Syria and back to their countries of origin,” he said. “Our offer to other countries is ‘we are prepared to help and we hope you’ll accept that offer’.

“Leaving these folks in camps in the desert or in ad-hoc prison facilities is not going to solve the problem, it’s going to kick the can down the road.”

The Australian government has consistently opposed any operation to rescue Australians trapped by the worsening conflict, saying it would not jeopardise further Australian lives in any rescue mission.

The home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, has said some of the Australians in the camp were “hardcore” and “have the potential and capacity to come back here and cause a mass casualty event”.

“So I don’t think it should come as a surprise when we say we’re not going to send our soldiers to rescue people of this nature.”

Sales said the US had repatriated six adults who had since been charged, and 14 children who had begun rehabilitation.

There are around 60 Australian women and children being held in camps in northern Syria.

Save the Children’s director of policy and international programs, Mat Tinkler, welcomed the US offer.

“The Australian government should take responsibility, immediately accept this offer and bring the Australian women and children home,” Tinkler said. “The Australian government has run out of excuses not to repatriate its citizens.”[

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ush-begins

Intelligence agencies have advised against taking them back but maybe we will have no choice. What then? More hundreds of millions of $$$$ spend to watch them 24/7? Jail?

I don't think the US should be endangering their own soldiers in rescuing this scum either. Maybe we should stop allowing them in to begin with. Unlike the 'wives' they can't feign ignorance at their intent and what they were doing.

[billy the kid]

ISIS brides and their children will be returned to Australia.....
That's sticking out like dogs balls...
Besides, when they return, no-one will know who they are as they will all be wearing a full length burka, Id imagine.
If the US is assisting in getting them out of Syria..it wont be just to take them to Turkey...or the French Riviera....
The US will dictate to Australia, and as per usual we will kow tow.....nothing changes...…
Morrison didn't just go to the USA to sup with the elites......well he did really....
This would have been part of the gig...unbeknowns to us peasants...…

[Black Orchid]

It might eventually be necessary to make a small country somewhere over there in the sand, fence it off and send them all there to rot forever, no matter where they came from. We could call it Allah's Snackbar.

It's going to be an ongoing new age problem and has to be addressed.

[Nom De Plume]

The United States is offering to rescue the Australian families of Islamic State (IS) group fighters trapped in Syria, as it ramps up pressure on countries to repatriate their citizens from the war zone.
Key points:
The US offers to help by "facilitating" the return of foreign fighters and their families
Eight Australians are among more than 2,000 foreign fighters imprisoned in Syria
Tens of thousands of foreign women and children are stuck in the al-Hawl camp

Eight Australian IS fighters are believed to be imprisoned, and more than 60 women and children are currently in the al-Hawl camp in northern Syria, a dangerous region that has become even more volatile since Turkey's offensive last month.
Before that invasion, the Australian Government repatriated a group of orphans from the camp but, so far, it has refused to extract any more.
Speaking exclusively to the ABC, top US counter-terrorism official Nathan Sales said it was a serious problem and all countries had a responsibility to take back their citizens.
He revealed the US had offered to help its Coalition partners by "facilitating" the return of foreign fighters and their families to their countries of origin.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-16/ ... a/11710924

[Black Orchid]

I know you posted this in another thread but I thought it deserved its own thread. I wonder if we will hear anymore about it unless the US leaks it?

[Nom De Plume]

We should bring back our citizens and put them on trial for their crimes, if guilty then they serve their sentence then returned to their country of origin, never to be allowed to return. The children should be allowed to be with their mothers and all of them [men, women and children] should be electronically tagged with a subdermal tracking device.

[Nom De Plume]

I know you posted this in another thread but I thought it deserved its own thread. I wonder if we will hear anymore about it unless the US leaks it?

I didn't realise it was the same article... just thought... it belonged better here DOH!

[Black Orchid]

It's a different article but the same topic

[sprintcyclist]

It might eventually be necessary to make a small country somewhere over there in the sand, fence it off and send them all there to rot forever, no matter where they came from. We could call it Allah's Snackbar.

It's going to be an ongoing new age problem and has to be addressed.

turkey do not want then there.
we do not want them here.

[Bogan]

If Australia has an extradition treaty with Australia, then fair enough. But if it has not, then suck eggs, Turkey. They are Muslims and they are your people, not ours. Turkey was instrumental in aiding ISIS by doing absolutely nothing to prevent foreign ISIS fighters using Turkey as their entry point to Syria. The joke was that there was a sign in Ankara airport saying "THIS WAY TO THE JIHAD!"

Turkey is fast becoming an hostile Fascist state and Australia need not have friendly relations with this country anymore. If we ever needed to in the first place. We get nothing out of it except Turkish immigrants who are very disproportionately represented in serious criminal behaviour and welfare dependency. It is just a pity that our ANZACS did not throw the Muslims right out of Turkey in 1915 and retake Constantinople for the Greeks.

Only recently, the Turkish dictator addressed a crown or "Turkish" Germans and reminded that them that they were Turks, not Germans. How long before he says the same thing to "Australian" Turks?