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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:06 pm
A man charged with terror offences planned to create an Islamic State (IS) base in the Blue Mountains and encourage fighters to launch "guerilla-stye" attacks in Sydney, court documents allege.
Isaak el Matari, 20, had his matter heard in Parramatta Local Court today charged with three offences including being a member of IS and preparing a terrorist act.
He was arrested during sweeping counterterrorism raids in western Sydney on Tuesday.
In a charge sheet tendered in court today, police allege Mr el Matari appointed himself the "general of Islamic State" in Australia and wanted to create an army that would launch "guerilla-stye" terror attacks.
The plans allegedly included creating a stronghold in the Blue Mountains, overseeing a contingent of IS fighters and identifying locations across Sydney to conduct terror attacks.
In the documents, police alleged Mr el Matari "made it known" he was a member of IS, had plans to bring firearms and explosives into Australia and talked about sacrificing himself for the IS cause.
He also "amassed American army clothes" in preparation for the attacks and went to the Pakistani consulate in Australia to obtain a visa for travel, police allege.
It is alleged he booked and paid for flights to Islamabad at a Flight Centre in Penrith and then made arrangements to be smuggled across the Pakistani border, through China, and into Afghanistan for the purpose of "hostile activity".
During a press conference on Tuesday, the AFP said they had been monitoring Mr el Matari since he returned from Lebanon last year.
Mr el Matari did not appear in court today and was refused bail.
Two other men also arrested in yesterday's raids were charged yesterday.
Radwan Dakkak, 23, from Toongabbie, was charged with being a member of IS and refused bail.
A 30-year-old man, who police alleged was an associate of Mr Dakkak and Mr el Matari, was charged with fraud offences and granted bail.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-04/ ... s/11277212
These scumbags deserve their own thread. WHY oh WHY are we letting these people back here when we have to watch them 24/7 and hope to catch then out before they kill people?
We really cannot afford to have these people here nor do most Australians even want them. What the hell is up with both sides of government continually putting our lives at risk and then using our tax dollars to keep this scum in check?
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:13 pm
Seems you as assuming that anybody who is a Muslim is guilty of being a Terrorist or a Terrorism supporter, Black Orchid. You also seem to be assuming that those who have yet to commit a crime are as guilty as those who have. Doesn't seem hardly fair. Haven't you heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?
Out of a matter of interest, do you know about the Witch Hunts of the 16th century? The Salem Witch Trials? The House Committee on UnAmerican Activities? Seem you don't by what you're claiming about people who have committed no crimes...
By all means, bang the criminals up but lets leave the innocent alone, OK?
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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billy the kid
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by billy the kid » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:18 pm
Seriously...I cant get my head around this.....this is just plain bloody stupid…..
We cant just keep them under surveillance for ever and a day and just hope that
we nip every terrorist attack in the bud.....sooner or later..it wont work.....there
will be a terrorist attack and people will die...
It wont be any comfort for anyone for the authorities to come out and say.....
...well...we had them under constant surveillance.....
Our government is failing us miserably.....and in the meantime...we are told to embrace islam......
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:20 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:13 pm
Seems you as assuming that anybody who is a Muslim is guilty of being a Terrorist or a Terrorism supporter, Black Orchid. You also seem to be assuming that those who have yet to commit a crime are as guilty as those who have. Doesn't seem hardly fair. Haven't you heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?
Out of a matter of interest, do you know about the Witch Hunts of the 16th century? The Salem Witch Trials? The House Committee on UnAmerican Activities? Seem you don't by what you're claiming about people who have committed no crimes...
By all means, bang the criminals up but lets leave the innocent alone, OK?
You are saying that those in the OP are innocent Brian?
Somehow I knew you would roll in with the appeasement and apologist stance!
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:27 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:20 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:13 pm
Seems you as assuming that anybody who is a Muslim is guilty of being a Terrorist or a Terrorism supporter, Black Orchid. You also seem to be assuming that those who have yet to commit a crime are as guilty as those who have. Doesn't seem hardly fair. Haven't you heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?
Out of a matter of interest, do you know about the Witch Hunts of the 16th century? The Salem Witch Trials? The House Committee on UnAmerican Activities? Seem you don't by what you're claiming about people who have committed no crimes...
By all means, bang the criminals up but lets leave the innocent alone, OK?
You are saying that those in the OP are innocent Brian?
Where did I suggest that, Black Orchid? I'm curious to see if you actually read what I typed or if you've just read what you imagined I typed. You typed:
These scumbags deserve their own thread. WHY oh WHY are we letting these people back here when we have to watch them 24/7 and hope to catch then out before they kill people?
We really cannot afford to have these people here nor do most Australians even want them. What the hell is up with both sides of government continually putting our lives at risk and then using our tax dollars to keep this scum in check?
I replied to your assumption that all people returning to Australia are automatically guilty of some crime or other in your imagination, Black Orchid. Are they?
Somehow I knew you would roll in with the appeasement and apologist stance!
Somehow I knew you'd grab the wrong end of the straw, Black Orchid.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:46 pm
Where did I suggest that, Black Orchid? I'm curious to see if you actually read what I typed or if you've just read what you imagined I typed.
And where did I say all muslims were out to kill us? Hmmm? I am also curious to see if you actually read what is typed and/or comprehend basic English.
I replied to your assumption that all people returning to Australia are automatically guilty of some crime or other in your imagination, Black Orchid. Are they?
All the ones returning from overseas who were fighting for IS? YES they are most definitely guilty of a crime.
Good Lord!
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Valkie
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by Valkie » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:48 pm
Muzzos fit into only two categories
Cowards who are terrorists
Cowards who will be terrorists given the opportunity
It's the CULT OF DEATH you see
All they do is kill, murder, and maim.
I have a dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:52 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:46 pm
Where did I suggest that, Black Orchid? I'm curious to see if you actually read what I typed or if you've just read what you imagined I typed.
And where did I say all muslims were out to kill us? Hmmm? I am also curious to see if you actually read what is typed and/or comprehend basic English.
You implied it, Black Orchid. You suggested that all Muslims returning from the Middle East needed to be watched 24/7.
I replied to your assumption that all people returning to Australia are automatically guilty of some crime or other in your imagination, Black Orchid. Are they?
All the ones returning from overseas who were fighting for IS? YES they are most definitely guilty of a crime.
Good Lord!
Really? You have evidence of that? If you do, why haven't you presented it to the AFP? Or is it just your prejudice talking again, hey?
Those that are guilty of a crime deserve to be locked up. Those who have committed no crime are, under Australian law innocent. At most, they deserve to be watched. However, apart from that, until they actually commit a crime within Australian jurisdiction, they are free to go about their business, just as you are, Black Orchid.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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IQS.RLOW
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by IQS.RLOW » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:08 pm
Bri Bri applied for the world record for building the most strawmen but was disqualified because they always blow over as soon he finishes one.
He would have been a shoe-in for the biggest cuckold apologist for violent ideology.
Quote by Aussie: I was a long term dead beat, wife abusing, drunk, black Muslim, on the dole for decades prison escapee having been convicted of paedophilia
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Valkie
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by Valkie » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:46 am
They should have just waited until the whole lot of them went into the place at the same time.
The muzzos are too stupid to keep apart, being latent pooftahs and smelling their mates bums.
Then just blow up the place.
Problem solved, and everyone woukd think it was the retards blowing themselves up.
WIN WIN
I have a dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream
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