Terrorism

[brian ross]

Islamophobia rules supreme, it seems. I wonder how many would have been happy with the Jews being shoved into Cattle Trucks on the trains to Auschwitz/etc.?

[Black Orchid]

Wrong comparison Brian. I don't know about you but I was not around when Auschwitz occurred so I had little influence there and the word "Islamophobia" is a non argument for those who cannot see the forest for the trees.

You obviously agree with these mini terrorists running around with beheading signs whilst their mothers' stand proud taking pictures of their little brainwashed pieces of excrement and then growing up into more useless pieces of crap who want to plot to blow us up when they are teenagers and in their early 20s.

Try thinking in the present and what is happening NOW rather than dwelling on a past we cannot change.

[Rorschach]

Are we shoving Muslims on to train cattle trucks and sending them anywhere?
Obviously I missed that.

[sprintcyclist]

Wrong comparison Brian. I don't know about you but I was not around when Auschwitz occurred so I had little influence there and the word "Islamophobia" is a non argument for those who cannot see the forest for the trees.

You obviously agree with these mini terrorists running around with beheading signs whilst their mothers' stand proud taking pictures of their little brainwashed pieces of excrement and then growing up into more useless pieces of crap who want to plot to blow us up when they are teenagers and in their early 20s.

Try thinking in the present and what is happening NOW rather than dwelling on a past we cannot change.

Well said

[brian ross]

Wrong comparison Brian. I don't know about you but I was not around when Auschwitz occurred so I had little influence there and the word "Islamophobia" is a non argument for those who cannot see the forest for the trees.

The point is, BO, I can see the forest for the trees and all I see is people online letting rip against the forest, rather than the trees. Yes, Muslim Terrorists do exist. Are they representative of Islam and Muslims in general? Nope, not in the slightest. Ever wonder why Muslims are the most likely targets for the Islamist Terrorists? It is because they hate people who disagree with their interpretation of the religion they claim to represent.

You obviously agree with these mini terrorists running around with beheading signs whilst their mothers' stand proud taking pictures of their little brainwashed pieces of excrement and then growing up into more useless pieces of crap who want to plot to blow us up when they are teenagers and in their early 20s.

Really? Where have I made a single statement supporting Terrorists or bad parenting, BO? Any quotes you'd like to post up which you attribute to me? I am fed up with people erecting strawman arguments about what I believe in and what I don't believe in. Tut, tut, it's all bullshit.

Try thinking in the present and what is happening NOW rather than dwelling on a past we cannot change.

Until you understand the past, you cannot understand the present, BO. Today, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are law-abiding, represent the mainstream of their religion's beliefs and just want to get on with their lives and be left alone by Islamophobic people who refuse to understand them or their religion. I have served with, studied with, worked with scores of Muslims over the decades. I have NEVER, EVER, encountered a single Muslim who supported Terrorism or Terrorists. I don't doubt they exist but I suspect they are such a tiny minority here in Australia that you'd have more chance of winning the x-lotto than you do of finding one amongst the majority of the Australian Muslim population. Posting defamatory pictures of Muslim women wearing hijabs proves nothing, except that woman is observant of her religious beliefs. What it shows is how you view your fellow Australians.

[Black Orchid]

I don't doubt they exist but I suspect they are such a tiny minority here in Australia that you'd have more chance of winning the x-lotto than you do of finding one amongst the majority of the Australian Muslim population.

Of the almost 2 billion muslims worldwide sure the percentage of plotting weasels in Australia is small but the fact still remains that there are MANY in Sydney who want nothing more than to do us harm and continue to plot to do so.

Posting defamatory pictures of Muslim women wearing hijabs proves nothing, except that woman is observant of her religious beliefs. What it shows is how you view your fellow Australians.

A picture of a Sydney women in a niqab (not a hijab) is defamatory how Brian? What it shows is many peoples' dissatisfaction at the growing number of these scumbags running around Sydney planning attacks on innocent people and their 'mothers' hiding and wailing behind their body bags.

These particular people are not my fellow Australians.

[brian ross]

I don't doubt they exist but I suspect they are such a tiny minority here in Australia that you'd have more chance of winning the x-lotto than you do of finding one amongst the majority of the Australian Muslim population.

Of the almost 2 billion muslims worldwide sure the percentage of plotting weasels in Australia is small but the fact still remains that there are MANY in Sydney who want nothing more than to do us harm and continue to plot to do so.

And your evidence of that is what, exactly? A few media reports of a handful of Muslim Islamists? Hardly a sufficient sample to form a valid opinion. It's like listening to neo-Nazi claims about Jewish people. There were a handful of Jewish terrorists in the 1940s. Does that mean all Jewish people are Terrorists or Terrorist supporters? Really?

Posting defamatory pictures of Muslim women wearing hijabs proves nothing, except that woman is observant of her religious beliefs. What it shows is how you view your fellow Australians.

A picture of a Sydney women in a niqab (not a hijab) is defamatory how Brian? What it shows is many peoples' dissatisfaction at the growing number of these scumbags running around Sydney planning attacks on innocent people and their 'mothers' hiding and wailing behind their body bags.

These particular people are not my fellow Australians.

Those people are no worse than ultra-orthodox Jews and I suspect you'll find more ultra-orthodox Jews running around Melbourne than you will find ultra-orthodox Muslims running around Sydney. Then we have ultra-orthodox Christians, ultra-orthodox Hindus, ultra-orthodox Buddhists. You don't proclaim them as being "not your fellow Australians," do you, BO? You concentrate exclusively on Muslims - the overwhelming majority of whom are simply Australians who worship a different religion to the mainstream. They don't support Terrorists, they aren't Terrorists and they don't like Terrorists, all too often having fled to Australia to escape them. To you, it seems, all Muslims are Terrorists. Do you really think that is a fair belief? I don't. Muslims can and are Australians, just like my neighbours who are Jewish/Hindu/South African/Sudanese/etc.

[Black Orchid]

And your evidence of that is what, exactly? A few media reports of a handful of Muslim Islamists? Hardly a sufficient sample to form a valid opinion. It's like listening to neo-Nazi claims about Jewish people. There were a handful of Jewish terrorists in the 1940s. Does that mean all Jewish people are Terrorists or Terrorist supporters? Really?

Who said anything about ALL Brian? I believe I said the absolute opposite. My evidence is what is happening in Sydney daily by guess who? Let me guess your response? Fake news?

Those people are no worse than ultra-orthodox Jews and I suspect you'll find more ultra-orthodox Jews running around Melbourne than you will find ultra-orthodox Muslims running around Sydney. Then we have ultra-orthodox Christians, ultra-orthodox Hindus, ultra-orthodox Buddhists.

None of whom are planning terrorist attacks in Sydney and Melbourne or do you have evidence to the contrary?

To you, it seems, all Muslims are Terrorists.

You keep pulling out that old chestnut. Where has anyone said that ALL muslims are terrorists? Please link me to that?

As an aside though ALL of the known people plotting to blow up parts of Sydney and/or kill innocent people in the street ARE muslims! They aren't Orthodox Jews nor are they Buddhists but in your limited mind you think that when someone says the word 'muslim' that they mean every muslim on earth.

That's shows very poor comprehension and understanding Brian.

[brian ross]

And your evidence of that is what, exactly? A few media reports of a handful of Muslim Islamists? Hardly a sufficient sample to form a valid opinion. It's like listening to neo-Nazi claims about Jewish people. There were a handful of Jewish terrorists in the 1940s. Does that mean all Jewish people are Terrorists or Terrorist supporters? Really?

Who said anything about ALL Brian? I believe I said the absolute opposite. My evidence is what is happening in Sydney daily by guess who? Let me guess your response? Fake news?

If it is good enough for Trump, et al, it must be OK for me to use that term.

However, I don't. My point is that you claim you don't mean all Muslims when you use the term, "Muslims". Problem is, you don't qualify your statement. Therefore, to me, it means you mean all Muslims, BO. If you were to simply add a qualifier in your claims about Muslims such as "some Muslims" or "a few Muslims" then I'd leave you alone. However, you keep using an unqualified statement. You use the term, "Muslims". So, what am I supposed to think about what you're saying, Mmmmm?

Those people are no worse than ultra-orthodox Jews and I suspect you'll find more ultra-orthodox Jews running around Melbourne than you will find ultra-orthodox Muslims running around Sydney. Then we have ultra-orthodox Christians, ultra-orthodox Hindus, ultra-orthodox Buddhists.

None of whom are planning terrorist attacks in Sydney and Melbourne or do you have evidence to the contrary?

I am not claiming that. I am making the point that your claims about Muslims are wrong. There are many ultra-orthodox groups, some which hold very similar views to ultra-orthodox Muslims - particularly towards women, BTW - but all you concentrate on are Muslims for some reason.

To you, it seems, all Muslims are Terrorists.

You keep pulling out that old chestnut. Where has anyone said that ALL muslims are terrorists? Please link me to that?

You do not qualify your statements, BO.

As an aside though ALL of the known people plotting to blow up parts of Sydney and/or kill innocent people in the street ARE muslims! They aren't Orthodox Jews nor are they Buddhists but in your limited mind you think that when someone says the word 'muslim' that they mean every muslim on earth.

That's shows very poor comprehension and understanding Brian.

No, what it shows is greater understanding than you are showing, BO. I am quite willing to admit that some Muslims are causing problems. You will note I qualify my statement with the prefix, "some", rather than simply stating that "Muslims are causing problems". Why? Because I recognise that the Muslims who are causing problems are small minority amongst a much greater majority, BO. Do you?

[Bobby]

Until you understand the past, you cannot understand the present, BO. Today, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are law-abiding, represent the mainstream of their religion's beliefs and just want to get on with their lives and be left alone by Islamophobic people who refuse to understand them or their religion.

It only took 19 of them to do 911.
Anniversary in 5 days.

That's 19 too many of them - it doesn't take many to give all the rest a bad name.