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Neferti
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Re: Socialism

Post by Neferti » Sun May 20, 2018 6:56 pm

brian ross wrote:Based on a simplistic American idea of what socialism is. No wonder they all failed. Under real socialism rewards are handed out on the basis of effort, not lack there of. If you wish to succeed you still are required to strive. Rewards are commiserate of effort. Where the difference is, rewards are not necessarily monetary. Australia used to be in the early 1970s, one of the most "socialist" states in the world - after Israel which was considered the most. Socialism is not equatable to Communism. Under Hawke/Keating we turned our backs on Socialism unfortunately.
It was an EXAMPLE Brian. Can you give me the Australian version of Socialism. The British version, or any other country's version? Do you mean LEFTISM?

Was Whitless a socialist? Where the people who pay the MOST TAX afforded FREE University and medical health for those that didn't even work? How did that go?
socialism
ˈsəʊʃəlɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: socialism

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, Fabianism, syndicalism, consumer socialism, utopian socialism, welfarism; More
communism, Bolshevism;
radicalism, militancy;
progressivism, social democracy;
labourism;
Marxism, Leninism, Marxism–Leninism, neo-Marxism, Trotskyism, Maoism
antonyms: conservatism
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms: leftism, Fabianism, syndicalism, consumer socialism, utopian socialism, welfarism; More
communism, Bolshevism;
radicalism, militancy;
progressivism, social democracy;
labourism;
Marxism, Leninism, Marxism–Leninism, neo-Marxism, Trotskyism, Maoism
antonyms: conservatism
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

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Re: Socialism

Post by mellie » Mon May 21, 2018 1:38 pm

Communism latches onto minority groups, under-dogs under the false claim of empowerment, giving said minorities a voice.

Not unlike union's really.


All very familiar, and all very left true, but perhaps if we provided another avenue to even up the stakes, said minorities wouldn't fall victim to small (c) communism aka socialism to begin with.

:meet

Just a thought.
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Re: Socialism

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon May 21, 2018 1:54 pm

mellie wrote:Communism latches onto minority groups, under-dogs under the false claim of empowerment, giving said minorities a voice.

Not unlike union's really.


All very familiar, and all very left true, but perhaps if we provided another avenue to even up the stakes, said minorities wouldn't fall victim to small (c) communism aka socialism to begin with.

:meet

Just a thought.
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Re: Socialism

Post by mellie » Mon May 21, 2018 1:58 pm

Goon o'clock already , Malc?


8-)

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Re: Socialism

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon May 21, 2018 1:59 pm

mellie wrote:Goon o'clock already , Malc?


8-)
Are you still a boring woman? Hey, why don't you go get some?????????????????????????
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Re: Socialism

Post by mellie » Mon May 21, 2018 2:01 pm

No, too busy enjoying the good life to spend my days wasted .... thanks.

:Hi

Some of us have responsibilities.
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Re: Socialism

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon May 21, 2018 2:06 pm

mellie wrote:No, too busy enjoying the good life to spend my days wasted .... thanks.

:Hi

Some of us have responsibilities.
Yay, mellie makes up definitions :rofl

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Re: Socialism

Post by mellie » Mon May 21, 2018 2:10 pm

:c

If by fancy dresses you mean jeans and a hoody ....then ok.


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Re: Socialism

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Mon May 21, 2018 2:46 pm

Socialism is nothing more than a neo-poofy euphemism for communism, which is a thief regime, or kleptocracy if you prefer.
That is where you penalise the industrious for being successful, and reward the inept for being slothful and incompetent.
Their current modus operandi is to cripple industry/businesses with unwarranted costs and compliance regimes and normalise the perverted, so their is no incentive to generate income and common sense is prohibited.

What these moonbat pinkos fail to realise is that by killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, they are ultimately cutting their own throats.
When the major industries decide it's not worth operating in this country any more, union membership (except for public servants) will dry up because small business employees and the self employed don't join union extortion groups. Then when the remainder of unionised work force occupations are mechanised by robots the compulsory superannuation ponzi will implode.

While I refrain from participation in share market gambling myself, I have to agree with Chris Corrigan's comments in the Weekend Australian concerning quotas for women on public company boards ... his sentiment (and mine) being that appointing women because their women as opposed to skill or merit breeds corruption through incompetence.

I also note he has a similar rationale to mine on such matters ... that it's not worth wasting energy fighting a lost cause, so just quit/resign and let it fail on its own lack of merit.
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Re: Socialism

Post by mellie » Mon May 21, 2018 3:15 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:Socialism is nothing more than a neo-poofy euphemism for communism, which is a thief regime, or kleptocracy if you prefer.
That is where you penalise the industrious for being successful, and reward the inept for being slothful and incompetent.
Their current modus operandi is to cripple industry/businesses with unwarranted costs and compliance regimes and normalise the perverted, so their is no incentive to generate income and common sense is prohibited.

What these moonbat pinkos fail to realise is that by killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, they are ultimately cutting their own throats.
When the major industries decide it's not worth operating in this country any more, union membership (except for public servants) will dry up because small business employees and the self employed don't join union extortion groups. Then when the remainder of unionised work force occupations are mechanised by robots the compulsory superannuation ponzi will implode.

While I refrain from participation in share market gambling myself, I have to agree with Chris Corrigan's comments in the Weekend Australian concerning quotas for women on public company boards ... his sentiment (and mine) being that appointing women because their women as opposed to skill or merit breeds corruption through incompetence.

I also note he has a similar rationale to mine on such matters ... that it's not worth wasting energy fighting a lost cause, so just quit/resign and let it fail on its own lack of merit.
And Yogi, I agree with you mostly, just think it's,a tad brash.

If we're to lure the minorities from the commies, we need to be gentle.

Respectful.
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