NASA missions to Mars and beyond

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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Rorschach » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:10 pm

Super Nova wrote:The moon is close but the risk of radiation and meteorites, even if they are the size of a grain of sand is very high.

Same with Mars.

Yes... did you miss what I actually said re development?
Personally I'd be opting for living below the surface.


Access to key resources will also be key so they can be self reliant. We need to discover a new energy source.

My perpetual motion free energy system based on cold fusion patent is still pending. 8-)

Actually here is a long but very interesting article on SciAm. There maybe a chance for cold fusion yet. They would not a major breakthrough if they really produce one that works even if we don't understand the science. (but feel too good to be true)


Cold Fusion Lives: Experiments Create Energy When None Should Exist

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ld-exist1/
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Rorschach » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:11 pm

Rorschach wrote:Personally I think we should concentrate on a closer neighbour first.

The Moon.

Develop: transport, habitats, tools and larger equipment for use in building and mining etc. Explore, develop resources etc.

Then we can go to Mars and utilise what we have already learned.
Easier to launch from the Moon as well. :thumb
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Super Nova » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:16 pm

Then we can go to Mars and utilise what we have already learned.
Yep, missed it. I agree we nee to do it step by step and learn. We cannot go straight to Saturn. Maybe in 1000 years.
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Rorschach » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:46 pm

Tsk tsk tsk.... no more scanning from you then eh...
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Rorschach » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:53 am

Just found this... Re NASA and my previous statement.
Seems NASA had a plan but it has either been forgotten or scrapped.
Personally I think its a good plan and we should learn to walk before running.
The Future and Significance of Lunar Exploration

Now we are preparing for humanity’s return to the moon. Over the next couple of years, at least four international robotic missions will orbit the moon, making global maps of unsurpassed quality. We will soft land on the moon, particularly the mysterious polar regions, to map the surface, examine the volatile deposits and characterize the unusual environment there. Ultimately, people will return to the moon. The goals of lunar return this time are not to prove that we can do it (as Apollo did) but to learn how to use the moon to support a new and growing spacefaring capability. On the moon, we will learn the skills and develop the technologies needed to live and work on another world. We will use this knowledge and technology to open the solar system for human exploration.

The story of the moon’s history and processes is interesting in its own right, but it has also subtly shifted perspectives on our own origins. One of the most significant discoveries of the 1980s was the giant impact 65 million years ago in Mexico that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs, allowing the subsequent rise of mammals. This discovery (made possible by recognizing and interpreting the telltale chemical and physical signs of hypervelocity impact) came directly from the study of impact rocks and landforms stimulated by Apollo. Scientists now think that impacts are responsible for many, if not most, extinction events in the history of life on Earth. The moon retains this record and we will read it in detail upon our return.

By going to the moon, we continue to obtain new insights into how the universe works and our own origins. Lunar exploration revolutionized understanding of the collision of solid bodies. This process, previously thought to be bizarre and unusual, is now viewed as fundamental to planetary origin and evolution – an unexpected connection. By returning to the moon, we anticipate learning even more about our past, and equally importantly, obtaining a glimpse into our future.
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by lisa jones » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:47 pm

Super Nova wrote:
lisa jones wrote:SN....you do realise what these missions are REALLY about.....yes?
Mmmm, is it to:
1. Look for new life forms
2. Continue our quest for discovery
3. Ensure the survival of the human race.
4. Spread life to the universe.
5. Some conspiracy theory that I am not aware of? 8-)
Oh come on!

It's all about the US exploring/owning/mining mineral resources...ie making billions of dollars.

The rest is just waffle. Sorry :Hi
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Lucas » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:25 pm

Super Nova wrote:
Then we can go to Mars and utilise what we have already learned.
Yep, missed it. I agree we nee to do it step by step and learn. We cannot go straight to Saturn. Maybe in 1000 years.
Until we get good shielding and propulsion technology its all a pipe dream really.

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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Rorschach » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:56 pm

Yep and the moon is the closest place to build a base and experiment and develop technologies for.
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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Lucas » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:07 pm

Rorschach wrote:Yep and the moon is the closest place to build a base and experiment and develop technologies for.
Nations need to stop bitching and fighting on earth and get back to the 80s and focus on the stars.

Kids today play the same dumb shootem ups over and over again.
In my day we were focused on space and technology not the dumbing down of society and our brains and gender fluidity , my goodness..

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Re: NASA missions to Mars and beyond

Post by Super Nova » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:11 pm

Lucas wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Yep and the moon is the closest place to build a base and experiment and develop technologies for.
Nations need to stop bitching and fighting on earth and get back to the 80s and focus on the stars.

Kids today play the same dumb shootem ups over and over again.
In my day we were focused on space and technology not the dumbing down of society and our brains and gender fluidity , my goodness..
I think in the 80s we focused on anti missile shields that led to the fall of the wall. I would like us to come together and focus on something other than killing ourselves. What a pity, we had such potential.
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