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What are the chances?

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:43 pm

Hypothetical:
It's mid July 2016 ... The Federal election results are counted.

The Lib/Nat Coalition has 125 HoR seats and the Lab/Green coalition also has 125 HoR seats, thus a hung Parliament.

The Lib/Nat coalition have 35 senate seats, the Lab/Green coalition have 35 seats, Nick Xenaphon has 6 senate seats, the mirco parties are wiped out and Clive Palmer is in court for corporate crimes, thus giving Nick the Greek the balance of power.

Will the Libs dump Turnbull?
Will Labor dump Shorten?
Will Xenaphon go easier on pokies for industry donations to his party?
Will the Australian Parliament be as farcical as it currently is, or even more so?
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Re: What are the chances?

Post by skippy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:51 pm

It wouldn't surprise me to see a hung parliament. I expect at least four independents that will decide the government. I think we are in for many years of unstable governments.
The problem is we have no leadership from either of the major parties.

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Re: What are the chances?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:55 pm

As much as it pains me, I see either a hung parliament or the ALP winning by a seat or two in the HOR. Turnbull has guaranteed that the next senate will be left leaning.

The biggest change from the next election will be the turfing of the left from the liberal party.
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Re: What are the chances?

Post by skippy » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:58 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:As much as it pains me, I see either a hung parliament or the ALP winning by a seat or two in the HOR. Turnbull has guaranteed that the next senate will be left leaning.

The biggest change from the next election will be the turfing of the left from the liberal party.
I think the Libs could even split and a new party be formed.

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Re: What are the chances?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:20 pm

skippy wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:As much as it pains me, I see either a hung parliament or the ALP winning by a seat or two in the HOR. Turnbull has guaranteed that the next senate will be left leaning.

The biggest change from the next election will be the turfing of the left from the liberal party.
I think the Libs could even split and a new party be formed.
The left hasn't infiltrated that far that conservatives would abandon their party, although it has come close. They just need a colonoscopy to remove the dingleberries that cause cancer. This situation isn't unheard of considering the scope of Abbotts win. He ended up with a massive majority and a heap of new parliamentarians who switched to Turnbull but relied on Abbott to get them where they are. Most of them will be gone thus Turnbull will too and the party will return to its core constituency rather than be based on polls that count labor and green voters that suck Malcolm's cock in conversation but would never vote liberal lest the dildo up their arse turns on them and jack hammers shit back up their mouths.

Abbotts problem is that he was too successful and bunch of soft left socialists were preselected for liberal seats and managed to convince others to piss their pants at the same time.

This country needs a severe dose of wake the fuck up and the ALP will only give you another dose of Xanax, fuck you up the arse while you are passed out and then charge you for the dunny paper to wipe your bloody arse.
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Re: What are the chances?

Post by boxy » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:32 am

Negotiation, rather than the spineless cow-towing of party politics, is how democracy is supposed to work. The majority of Australians are more than two dimensional, so don't fall into the black and white, left/right divide that the opinion columns push them towards. They realise that both major parties have good and bad points, and that their excesses need to be kept in check by independents.

Hung parliaments have been popular, lately. Better learn to work with them.

Keep the bastards honest... with your Senate vote.
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Re: What are the chances?

Post by freediver » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:41 am

Negotiation, rather than the spineless cow-towing of party politics
What's the difference? Whether you agree with the outcome?

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Re: What are the chances?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:05 am

Chances are low OY.

It will depend on who wins the upcoming campaign which will start after the budget.

If the budget is bad the Libs will have set themselves and the Nats a very difficult job to do.

Hopefully Lambie, Lazarus, Leyonjhelm, Palmer, will all be gone. Doesn't alter the Senate that much. As for the HOReps... well that will depend on the campaign.

So far the Libs have let the ALP lie and crap on without correction... this IMO is a mistake. So far they have made several, their latest the changes to ASIC funding etc which actually made it look like the ALP were telling the truth. yet the ALP have not provided one shred of evidence to back up their anti banking claims re widespread malfeasance. Sure banks aren't perfect but they aren't as corrupt as some Unions... I note THE ALP STILL ACCEPT LARGE DONATIONS FROM THE BANKS and the UNIONS. In fact over the years their have been occasions where they received more funding from banks than the Liberals.

If Australians keep making the Senate unworkable we will never get the country going again. Hopefully they will eventually wake up to this.

Eventually the major parties will have to vote in a leader that is acceptable to the majority of Australians and as such have policies acceptable to the majority.

Shorten promises he will take away the right of the majority of Australians to vote on major changes to their society. This will assure my vote going elsewhere. Regardless of the rest of their policies. :WTF
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Re: What are the chances?

Post by boxy » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:07 pm

freediver wrote:
Negotiation, rather than the spineless cow-towing of party politics
What's the difference? Whether you agree with the outcome?
That the MP was voted for, on issues or personal integrity, rather than just along party lines.

There are so many pollies in there, simply because they have lab/lib/nat/grn next to their name on the voting form.
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Re: What are the chances?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:38 pm

boxy wrote:
freediver wrote:
Negotiation, rather than the spineless cow-towing of party politics
What's the difference? Whether you agree with the outcome?
That the MP was voted for, on issues or personal integrity, rather than just along party lines.

There are so many pollies in there, simply because they have lab/lib/nat/grn next to their name on the voting form.
So you would never vote ALP then, considering that they aren't allowed to cross the floor then and have to vote according to party lines.

Fucking hypocrite. :roll:
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