Proof of God

[Super Nova]

Look Roach, JC has returned. This time he is Chinese. that makes sense since they are the largest single race on the planet and set to dominate the world. Look he will probably die again, hopefully taking our sins with him.


'Dead' Chinese baby awakes just before cremation

A Chinese baby boy who was declared dead and spent the night in a morgue showed signs of life just as he was about to be cremated, local TV reported.

Workers at the crematorium in Pan'an in the eastern province of Zhejiang were preparing to cremate the baby on Friday when he suddenly starting moaning, provincial television reported.

The boy had been declared dead the day before and had spent 15 hours in the morgue at a temperature of about -12 degrees Celsius (10.4 F).

After finding the child alive, the crematorium notified his father and the baby was taken to a hospital intensive care unit.

"It's the first time I've seen this. It's a true FUCK'N miracle," said a doctor at the Pan'an hospital where the infant was born prematurely in January.

The child spent 23 days in an incubator and was then taken home by his father, who wanted him there for the start of the Lunar New Year which began Monday.

But the baby's condition worsened a few days after returning home. He was declared dead on February 4 after a doctor decided his heart had stopped beating.

Before the baby was sent to the morgue, his father had wrapped him in two layers of clothing and a thick bag which may have saved his life.

However, doctors are cautious about his chances of recovery.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dea ... id=SK2CDHP

Or maybe he wasn't dead to begin with... who knows.

[Rorschach]

and you wonder why I think you have no credibility when it comes to religious debate.

Don't try ridiculing me and my beliefs or shoving your close minded atheistic non belief down my throat. I don't do it to you.

[mantra]

Blah blah blah oh dear you slander etc and whinge when you get called on it. I', no atheist mantra, I do know about Christianity, I can let people post lies and rubbish or I can post the facts. I make no claims to being better or authority. You seem to make them for me because YOU have issues with the facts

As you have finally admitted that it is a fact that there is no proof of God - then you can't say people are lying when they give their own interpretation of christianity.

When it comes to proof of God - there are no facts.

Like I said... glad you agree sort of my statement is more correct.

You would have to be dead to prove it if we are to believe the above statement.

If you are dead you are dead mantra... again my statement is more factual regarding true Christian beliefs.

Who is supposed to be the judge of true Christian beliefs? Someone who professes to be a "true" Christian?

Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches,

Jeremiah 9:23

[Black Orchid]

There is no 'proof' of God.

[Super Nova]

There is no proof. There is no indication ever in the history of the known universe for a single magical or mystical or miracle that even suggest there is a deity that tampers with our lives.

Roach, I wish there was a god, a heaven, a hell, an afterlife.... that would be great because I like all humans from the moment we realized we are mortal and no matter what we do we will die, do not to end our existence at the end of our life. I too wish our souls or something continued on.

It is a great desire that I see no evidence for.

It is a great myth that once invented became the tool of control for those in power.

Religion is a political instrument... nothing more.

However, I think there is merit in ones beliefs being their own and if it helps, everyone can have a personal god... but it is personal.

I believe this because I know I am not god, I know I am insignificant in time and in space. there are powers greater than me. So I accepted there is a power greater than me. Call it what you will, God, the pink unicorn, Karma, laws of physics+chaos... what ever it is, it is in our nature to accept there is something beyond our control.... we choose a label and invent stories because we need an explanation for everything. God fills those gaps we cannot explain yet.... and puts the mind at ease for those that cannot grasp a universe that has no divine intervention... at any time.

[Neferti]

Most of us have "read the Bible" at some stage.

It is about a bunch of "elderly men" sitting around reminiscing about what their forebears told them ... i.e GOSSIP.

Only nut cases and criminals who are trying to get out of Gaol quote the Bible as anything other than a bunch of "stuff".

The Baptists believe that they are the ONLY people allowed into "Heaven". Us Heathens will perish ........ our "soul" will live on .........

I think that the Catholics have a similar idea.

Dead is DEAD!

[IQS.RLOW]

There is no proof. There is no indication every in the history of the known universe for a single magical or mystical or miracle that even suggest there is a being that tampers with our lives.

It is a great desire that I see no evidence for.
It is a great myth that once invented became the tool of control for those in power.
Religion is a political instrument... nothing more.

I think it is more complicated than that. Humans have always had an innate need for belief in a higher power. The evidence for this is tens of thousands of years old and stretched across humanity from early civilizations to the present day. The Gaia worshippers and the AGW hysterics are far worse than any form of modern day Christianity. The Gaia/AGW leftwing nutbags are equivalent to ISIS- you must live your life as we direct or you will be cast into the fires of hell on earth.

I think that some kind of belief in a higher power is an essential part of the human condition. Religion/politics is a method of mustering and organising the human condition. Unfortunately gullibility and corruption is also part of the human condition and some will use the human condition as tools to achieve their wants.

Proof of (your) God exists. Its in your own mind.
Problems occur when people stop speaking to their God and start believing that their God is speaking to them.

[Black Orchid]

I think that the Catholics have a similar idea.

No they don't.

[Black Orchid]

I think that some kind of belief in a higher power is an essential part of the human condition. Religion/politics is a method of mustering and organising the human condition. Unfortunately gullibility and corruption is also part of the human condition and some will use the human condition as tools to achieve their wants.

It's a form of control and, let's face it, more people than not want to be led and they don't want to take responsibility for their actions/decisions. So by confessing their wrongs and seeking absolution they are effectively not taking responsibility. They believe they can do no wrong and never have to own up to or take responsibility in this endless cycle.

[IQS.RLOW]

Confession and absolution is not part of the human condition.
That is a construct of a particular religion.

It is true that most people prefer to be led rather than lead.