errr Global Warming?

[Rorschach]

Why don't you try addressing the facts we post instead of just ignoring them and posting propaganda that is neither here nor there?

[Rorschach]

[Super Nova]

It has been hotter and colder but 4 degrees is a lot and we have how many billion people.... so it is a big deal to have this change now.

[Neferti]

It has been hotter and colder but 4 degrees is a lot and we have how many billion people.... so it is a big deal to have this change now.

Yes. Hotter and Colder. Geeze. Only 4 degrees? Perhaps we should all stop breathing?

[Rorschach]

[Outlaw Yogi]

Read the articles...

Did plenty of that for a long time, and quite often still do. But an article by a journo is proof of nothing but the journo's own opinion.
To get a realistic perspective, one must do some research of their own. And that's why I looked into the phenomena and history of
from more angles/tangents/aspects than in the light spectrum.

You lot have been crapping on about the Antarctic and regurgitating lies for years...

No actually it is you and like minded numbats that have been bullshitting ad nauseum for 2 decades +,
and now look like those who refused to accept the Earth is not flat.

This is about as close to truth as you're likely to get ...

The impact of CO2 on heating is negligible compared with NO a CH4.
But the absorbent properties of CO2 means our atmosphere contains 7% more moisture/H2O than it did when
NASA began checking moisture ratios in the 1960s. In simple terms the air has more water in it.

Now this water has to come from somewhere, and despite the atmosphere containing more water the oceans continue to rise.
Some same the ocean level rise is 0.27cm per year, others claim 1.5cm per year, and the most extreme analysis I've seen claimed 3cm
per year. What ever the case the fact the oceans are rising is not in dispute, but the rate rise is.

So the air has more water in it, and the oceans have more water in them. This suggests the water is coming from glaciers and ice sheets. We know the Arctic is melting away and the Greenland ice sheet is in rapid decline.

With regards to Antarctica per se, NASA says Eastern Antarctica is melting away but Western Antarctica is growing more rapidly than the melt in the East of the continent. Well for a start there's more water in the air to create snow and as the weather bands have moved away from the equator, winds in the Southern (and probably the North too) Ocean have increased and moved further South, drawing more clouds and moisture to Antarctica, thus more snow.

Now here's the bit everyone seems to be missing. As the Earth axis shifts, as it does constantly (moves 30 degrees every 2165 years) some polar regions thaw out and some temperate zones freeze over. The axis shift rate used to be aprox 10 miles per year, but for reasons unknown to me the shift rate doubled some time between 10 and 15 years ago.

So Global Warming is our reality, but it's been going on for 18,000 years since the last glacial maximum (21,000 to 18,000 years ago).
And unforseen anomalies are easily explained when all factors are taken into consideration.
See, it's not as complicated as some would have us believe.

Eventually, all the extra accumulated ice in Western Antarctic will move East into a warmer zone as the axis shift continues and melt quite rapidly, Just like Northern Canada and Greenland are doing now. Of course as the North pole moves West Russia will Freeze over and become like the Arctic used to be.

anyone who can see would have realized the truth.

What's your guide dog's name?

[Outlaw Yogi]

http://joannenova.com.au/2015/11/megadr ... -droughts/

A new atlas shows droughts of the past were worse than those today — and they cannot have been caused by man-made CO2. Despite the claims of “unprecedented” droughts, the worst droughts in Europe and the US were a thousand years ago.

Something else is causing droughts, something modern models don’t include:

“megadroughts reconstructed over north-central Europe in the 11th and mid-15th centuries reinforce other evidence from North America and Asia that droughts were more severe, extensive, and prolonged over Northern Hemisphere land areas before the 20th century, with an inadequate understanding of their causes.”

The worst megadrought in the California and Nevada regions was from 832 to 1074 CE (golly, 242 years). The worst drought in north-central Europe was from 1437 to 1473 CE, lasting 37 years.

Climate models don’t predict any of the droughts below, and all of them occurred before 99% of our emissions were released.

Authors compare results from the new atlas and its counterparts across three time spans: the generally warm Medieval Climate Anomaly (1000-1200); the Little Ice Age (1550-1750); and the modern period (1850-2012).

How many times do I have to explain it Dopey?

As the axis shifts (sometimes slowly and sometimes very rapidly) different regions move into other weather zones, and thus experience completely different weather patterns.
It's been going on forever. It's why the Sphinx exhibits signs of water erosion on the body, but not head. Egypt used to have a much wetter climate, and some time after an axis shift the lion's head was recarved to that of a pharoh within the last 5000 years. It also explains why wooly mammoths are found snap frozen, in one case with food still in its mouth - fell into water probably after isotropic quake and went into deep freeze as a temperate zone became a polar zone in a hurry.

Axis shift aka 'Axial Precession' aka 'Precession of the Equinoxes' is the critical missing piece from the computer models.

Of course this is completely independent of the fact weather bands have moved away from the equator, pushing them to new latitudes, and completely independent of the 7% more water in the atmosphere than in the 1960s.

Note: The authors of the article you cite have restricted their research to very narrow time frames. To research the topic properly, they need to go back right through the Earth's history.

I'm getting the impression you don't actually want a genuine explanation for what's happening, but just merely clutch at any straw which suggests an irregularity or anomaly not factored in as proof negative. I'm yet to see you or any like you come up with a plausible alternate explanation for what's happening or any viable let alone credible research that supports your position/opinion/argument.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Pardon the repeat - deleted.

[Super Nova]

Yogi, I feel that the force of denial is very strong in this one.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Yogi, I feel that the force of denial is very strong in this one.

Probably right there SN.

Anyway, nobody has to take my word for any of what I have claimed.
If anyone genuinely was interested in finding answers they'd do their own research.

Here's a couple of places to start ...

NB: As Axial Precession aka Precession of the Equinoxes becomes ever more obvious as a critical factor in Climate Change, some global Warming scaremongers are claiming Global Warming is causing the axis shifts. Which is deceptive bunkum.
NB: In' Precession of the Equinoxes' theory the Zodiac is a map of the sky with each Zodiac character representing a 30 degree sector. It takes 2165 years to pass through each 30 degree sector during which time the sun rises in the sector represented by that particular Zodiac character. The age of Pisces finished on 21st Dec 2012, during which time the sun rose in Pisces and the dominant religion of that era was represented by a fish. We are currently in the age of Aquarius and the planet is shifting to a position that will cause the sun to rise in Aquarius. The religious undertones imply this era will experience flood or people will worship private water companies
The religious aspects are quite odd, but during the age of Taurus cattle were deified - Minoans worshiped Bulls, Hindus began worshiping cows, and at the end of the age of Taurus Moses supposedly had a tantrum over a golden calf, smashed his ten commandment tablets, melted down the idol and poured the molten gold down 3000 of his tribe lost in the Sinai desert. Not sure why (probably Judeao-Catholic superstition) why Gemini the 2 snakes was modified to be twin humans but in the age of Gemini snakes were deified, and in the age of Cancer Turtles were deified ... and so on and so forth .. or actually in reverse.
The precession through the zodiac characters is in reverse.
Our solar system takes 25,980 years to do one lap of the galaxy/Milky Way, just like the Earth takes 365 days to do one lap of our solar system.
Every 12,990 years our solar system passes closer to the centre of the galaxy on its elliptic orbit and is bombarded with higher levels of cosmic radiation from the constant planet forming explosions at the centre of the Milky Way. What effect this has on our sun, and in turn our planet I don't know. But I am curious to know the electrical properties of CO2.
As differing forms of carbon have varying electrical properties, from insulation to conductor.

Gotta go, supposed to be searching for titanium and platinum electrodes for a mineral extraction experiment.

axis shift
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=tit ... urn false;

magnetic north moves
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=magn ... mAWd24DIDg