Indonesia and their Drug Laws

[skippy]

I consider myself to be against the death penalty, but I could think of lots of animals in Australian gaols,like the Anita Cobby murderers, who I would gladly see put to death.
What annoys me the most about this is the Indonesian governments attitude to our governments calls for clemency, we should repay them the best way we can by hurting their economy and boycotting Bali and denying financial aid. I notice one of the Indonesian government officials has already said something along the lines of " Australia are just chest beating and will not recall their ambassador for too long". They treat us with disdain, we should reply in kind.

[Black Orchid]

They treat us with disdain, we should reply in kind.

Cutting foreign aid back to nothing would be a start.

[skippy]

They treat us with disdain, we should reply in kind.

Cutting foreign aid back to nothing would be a start.

Yes, they could be told their aid was being diverted to Nepal.

[mellie]

I have no idea why people insist on holidaying in Indonesia,(dumb schoolies) .... I know it's cheap, though you would have thought we'd learned after the Bali bombings just how welcome we Australians really are in their country, with or without a boogie-board bag full of drugs.

[boxy]

I consider myself to be against the death penalty, but I could think of lots of animals in Australian gaols,like the Anita Cobby murderers, who I would gladly see put to death.

Indeed. Principles are like that though. They stop you doing what you feel is justified because of a more fully thought out philosophy.

[mantra]

Who are we to tell Indonesia to disregard their own laws? I can't see why Bishop is kicking up such a fuss. It's a nasty business, but other nations use the death penalty and we say nothing. If the Indonesian President had backed down on this - it would set a precedent for drug smugglers.

Australian Federal police are being questioned about their involvement. They should also be held accountable for allowing the crime to happen in the first place when they had the power to stop it.

In 2005, the AFP alerted Indonesia to the Bali Nine's plans to smuggle heroin out of Indonesia.

Before the drug mules had left Australian soil, the AFP provided Indonesian authorities with key details that led to their arrests.

After the Bali Nine arrests and in response to public backlash, the AFP guidelines were tightened.

But federal MP Clive Palmer argues those changes need to go further.

Mr Palmer says he will be seeking support for a private members bill which would stop authorities providing information to other law enforcement agencies that could result in the death penalty being imposed.

'The AFP could have chosen to arrest the Bali Nine in Australia and we have seen the consequences of that overnight,' Mr Palmer said.

- See more at:http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stor ... gAbK9.dpuf

[Rorschach]

Indonesia is still mired in corruption in its legal and political ranks...
No one will ever consider after this that rehabilitation is worthwhile as it apparently accounts for nothing.

[Rorschach]

Indonesia is a sovereign nation, what do you expect us to do? Go to war? Your bleating is just like that idiot woman on Q&A the other night. Or like the rest of the peacenik progs who don't live in the real world.

As much as it would have been more reasonable to keep them alive doing good in the Indonesian prison system, we have all I'm sure found life at times very unfair. This is political posturing and populist politics in a country that isn't really our friend. They never had a chance except under Yudhoyono, and even he wouldn't grant them clemency.

You are a half wit. If you can't be bothered reading my posts properly - then don't bother responding.

Sorry... since you just abuse and don't answer questions or factually refute it's impossible to give you any credit for any fully formed though.

[mellie]

Why are we still discussing this?

It's over.

How many of you are aware of the fact that the two that were executed actually threatened the lives and families of the remaining Bali 7 should they not go through with their deed, prior to them even leaving Australia?

Yea, lovely people.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for this brand of gunk, born-again priest or otherwise.

[mantra]

Indonesia is a sovereign nation, what do you expect us to do? Go to war? Your bleating is just like that idiot woman on Q&A the other night. Or like the rest of the peacenik progs who don't live in the real world.

As much as it would have been more reasonable to keep them alive doing good in the Indonesian prison system, we have all I'm sure found life at times very unfair. This is political posturing and populist politics in a country that isn't really our friend. They never had a chance except under Yudhoyono, and even he wouldn't grant them clemency.

You are a half wit. If you can't be bothered reading my posts properly - then don't bother responding.

Sorry... since you just abuse and don't answer questions or factually refute it's impossible to give you any credit for any fully formed though.

If you can't handle abuse - then don't dish it out first. I gave my opinion which you completely ignored. You got it wrong. I have some sympathy for the two people executed, but they could read.

It will be interesting to see what explanation the AFP give today. Regardless of the laws which allowed them to share intelligence with Indonesia - they should have used some discretion especially when they knew charges would result in the death penalty. Who will they blame? The parents who tipped them off in order to prevent this crime - or the government in power at the time?