Should Abbott step down?

[Rorschach]

Really some people here have so little imagination....
Turnbull won't fly unless he's suddenly become a Conservative.
Bishop won't fly due to Gillard and her own stint as Treasurer.

That leaves people like Morrison or Brough who both could do the job, even though the latter wouldn't be a wise decision at this time.

So Morrison for PM
Bishop to stay as MFA
Turnbull Treasurer
Brough M of Defence

The rest are up for grabs there are people on their back bench with much better credentials than some already in the ministry.
Time for a rethink/reboot/reshuffle.

Abbott Minister for Indigenous Affairs.
Hockey????? maybe a stint on the dole would be good for him and Cormann.

[mantra]

I don't think a lot of people trust Morrison completely. He has been very secretive and he's only proved himself in one portfolio and we don't even know how he did it.

Turnbull might become Treasurer if Abbott stays on as leader.

Still - if the msm is right and Abbott doesn't get booted tomorrow, his stay is predicted to be short. Then it will only be a small jump for Turnbull straight to the top.

[Rorschach]

I don't think a lot of people trust Morrison completely. He has been very secretive and he's only proved himself in one portfolio and we don't even know how he did it. You mean the LW prog Conspiranuts.... those people?

Turnbull might become Treasurer if Abbott stays on as leader. He may... 1 step in the right direction at least. He should already have been Treasurer, not Hockey.

Still - if the msm is right and Abbott doesn't get booted tomorrow, his stay is predicted to be short. Then it will only be a small jump for Turnbull straight to the top. If Turnbull ever gets it again it will be because people like you have very short memories. If he keeps it it will be a great surprise.

[mellie]

Just a leftard media storm in a teacup.

It'll all blow over by tomorrow morning.


Will Tony be our PM in the morning?


There was never any doubt.

[mantra]

If Turnbull ever gets it again it will be because people like you have very short memories. If he keeps it it will be a great surprise.

He's OK, but there isn't a big choice. Howard was derided by everyone when he was Treasurer and yet he turned out to be a good PM according to a lot of people. Turnbull might just turn out to be better than expected. You only have to look at Rudd, Gillard and Abbott - we expected greatness from these people. Someone as understated as Turnbull probably wouldn't disappoint us.

Will Tony be our PM in the morning?


There was never any doubt.

You are probably right - but will he be PM in 3 months time?

[mellie]

Turnbull might just turn out to be better than expected.

- Mantra

The operative word being turn.

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Mantra, noone trusts Malcolm, he's a turncoat.

[Rorschach]

He's OK, but there isn't a big choice. Howard was derided by everyone when he was Treasurer and yet he turned out to be a good PM according to a lot of people. Turnbull might just turn out to be better than expected. You only have to look at Rudd, Gillard and Abbott - we expected greatness from these people. Someone as understated as Turnbull probably wouldn't disappoint us.

Got nothing to do with his abilities as Treasurer, I expect he will be a good one as I always picked him for that position anyway.
As for your stupid claim about greatness... boy you really do need a reality check.

[mellie]

Liberal senator Cory Bernardi has accused Malcolm Turnbull of orchestrating the spill motion in an interview on SkyNews, saying the communications minister was “up to his ears in this”.
He said that despite there being apparently no challenger to Mr Abbott in the spill motion, MPs have divided into the Turnbull camp and the PM camp.
“There may have been the seeds of discontent but they’ve been fed, they’ve been fertilised and they’ve been watered by those who have much to gain,” he told Sky News.
Mr Bernardi said that those plotting against the PM should not sit at the cabinet table, suggesting that Mr Turnbull should quit if the spill motion fails and flagging the possibility of continuing tensions.

No wonder the left love Turnbull.

Putin loves him also.

I knew Turnbull was behind it, and also said Turnbull was going to be a problem before Tony was elected.

Abbotts mistake was he failed to take out the trash as soon as he was elected.


Will Turnbull succeed?

I doubt it, though for the long term health of the government, he and his cronies needs to be dealt with.

http://www.news.com.au/national/tony-ab ... 7212587207

[mantra]

Got nothing to do with his abilities as Treasurer, I expect he will be a good one as I always picked him for that position anyway.
As for your stupid claim about greatness... boy you really do need a reality check.

So what do you expect from a leader? Mediocrity, incompetence etc. People who take voting seriously have high expectations of a prime minister, moreso when they get the leader of the party they voted for.

It has now reached the point of ridiculousness with our major parties and their indecisiveness and incompetence. Can you imagine how much it costs to change leaders and parties so often?

[mantra]

I knew Turnbull was behind it, and also said Turnbull was going to be a problem before Tony was elected.

Why would you believe a pipsqueak like Bernardi? No doubt his job is at stake if the spill is successful. Turnbull has been the epitome of discretion and loyalty and no-one can prove otherwise.