Islamist extremists seize hostages in central Sydney

[mellie]

And boxy, they should have brought in snipers to penetrate the glass.

If deflection is a concern, two snipers can fire. One shoots to break the glass, the other shoots to kill.

You should totally offer them your help, thinking of these things, next time, Mellie. They obviously have no idea

I saw it on NCIS

[mellie]

Nato, have you read the article "Is Anders Breivic a Christian Terrorist" by David Gibson?

Self proclaimed christian right-wing zealot.

You might also be interested in Breivic's 1,500-page Christian manifesto he compiled in the months leading up to his massacre of 77 people, mostly youths, in Norway.

Like I said, extremist nutcases come from all walks of life... are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Left-wing, ,right-wing, rich or poor .... and everything in between.

It's not uncommon for the mentally unwell to cling obsesivly to religious ideologies.

In fact Nato, you sound a tad extreme yourself there with respects to some of your sentiments, convictions.

[IQS.RLOW]

Nato, have you read the article "Is Anders Breivic a Christian Terrorist" by David Gibson?

Self proclaimed christian right-wing zealot.

You might also be interested in Breivic's 1,500-page Christian manifesto he compiled in the months leading up to his massacre of 77 people, mostly youths, in Norway.

Like I said, extremist nutcases come from all walks of life... are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Left-wing, ,right-wing, rich or poor .... and everything in between.

It's not uncommon for the mentally unwell to cling obsesivly to religious ideologies.

In fact Nato, you sound a tad extreme yourself there with respects to some of your sentiments, convictions.

Unlike yourself with da jooooos and anti-vac fuckwittery

[mellie]

Nato, have you read the article "Is Anders Breivic a Christian Terrorist" by David Gibson?

Self proclaimed christian right-wing zealot.

You might also be interested in Breivic's 1,500-page Christian manifesto he compiled in the months leading up to his massacre of 77 people, mostly youths, in Norway.

Like I said, extremist nutcases come from all walks of life... are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Left-wing, ,right-wing, rich or poor .... and everything in between.

It's not uncommon for the mentally unwell to cling obsesivly to religious ideologies.

In fact Nato, you sound a tad extreme yourself there with respects to some of your sentiments, convictions.

Unlike yourself with da jooooos and anti-vac fuckwittery

Like with Islamic and Christian extremists, we have Jewish Extremist groups.

Look IQ's, if you are going to be a denialist, at least be consistent and deny all extremist/radical groups exist, not just that which suits you.

Myself, I try to be more inclusive when defining what I believe constitutes for terrorism.



Perhaps you could put your Jewish penis in Boxy's Muslim mouth and help bring peace to the middle east?

[Super Nova]

For me this is all about promoting a war of hate.

The extremists are now successful in their mission which is simple.

Use the name of Islam to promote a holy war with the west....... it is not about religion.... it is about control and power.

This is a problem of the wests making.

Consider the history here.

1. We first picked a fight with Islam during the crusades. We picked the first holy war. It is enshrined in history. They still tell the stories about the atrocities where we... the west killed whole cities in the name of Christ.
2. We supported fighters in Afghanistan in a fight with the Russians . When Russia pulled out we dumped them and turned on them. The rise of Bin Laden. We armed him and funded him. When it didn't suit us we hunted them down.
3. 9/11... bush went and picked a fight with Saddam who at the time was holding a region in some control. There was no justification for this. It was perceived as a war on Islam rather than a just war.
4. We created a region of instability. Young people who have only known poverty and war and hate. They are easily radicalised.
5. After WW2 we create a homeland for the jews. Nice idea but completed dispossessed the people who had owned the region since the Romans. The yare still fighting for their right to exist and have a country to call home.
6. The UK draw borders that were designed to maintain conflict. Divide and conquer... keep them fighting. These borders were drawn by the west and did not align to actual cultural or history boundaries.
7. We try to force western ideals into the region that is tribal and need strong leaders to keep everyone in check. The culture of the region is not ready for this. Remember we had 4 hundred years to evolve this in the west and had ,many wars and a great big one in WW2 to preserve this.
8. We try to force the separation of church and state in the region. They have never had this. It was only recent that we did this. The US first. Henry the 8th but kicking out Rome and the constitutions formed after WW2. It is a modern thing. It cannot be changed over night.

As far as religion goes. Islam and Christianity believe in many of the same things... the good things we have come to expect. There are those that choose a part of any of the scriptures to take it out of context and the time it was written to claim a different meaning to radicalise the young. Christians have been doing this too. Have you ever listened to a Christian nutter preach.... it sounds the same.

This is all about POLITICS, POWER and MONEY by those who have found the opportunity to pursue it. Nothiung has changed.

The biggest mistake we can make is to fall into the trap set.

That is, believe there is a war with islam and pursue it.

We must rise above this and accept Islam is a good a religion as any other. At this time in history terrible things have been done in it's name by those that are not practicing the faith at all.

If you grew up in poverty, war and no education with no hope for your future... you too would be of the mental state be gab any opportunity to improve your lot for yourself and family. When confront with really hard choices.... you too would be susceptible to radicalization.

We need to under the root cause.... and work to address it.

[5.56 NATO]

Nato, have you read the article "Is Anders Breivic a Christian Terrorist" by David Gibson?

Self proclaimed christian right-wing zealot.

You might also be interested in Breivic's 1,500-page Christian manifesto he compiled in the months leading up to his massacre of 77 people, mostly youths, in Norway.

Like I said, extremist nutcases come from all walks of life... are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Left-wing, ,right-wing, rich or poor .... and everything in between.

It's not uncommon for the mentally unwell to cling obsesivly to religious ideologies.

In fact Nato, you sound a tad extreme yourself there with respects to some of your sentiments, convictions.

This is not about Norway, they are already fucked due to their tolerance towards the muslim. Brevics response was an example of "whitey" biting back. These fluffy bunnies are slowly chipping away at the fabric of what was once a pertty good society, not without its problems but pretty good none the less. You call me extreme for my views but when this piece of shit pulls a stunt like this you call him mentally ill, a victim of illness. Why don't you poke down to Martin Place ,grab a microphone tell everyone there that he didn't do this because he was a muslim but he was merely a victim of mental illness, even the latte sipping inner city homos would probably tear you to pieces . Good luck with it. This is an isolated event...until the next one and its coming son, don't you worry about that.

[mellie]

SN, the fact remains in this particular instance, the Lindt cafe gunman was not an ISIS linked terrorist as some reported, rather was an unbalanced loon who slipped through the cracks of our judicial and mental health care system.

He isnt the first, and I suspect he wont be the last.

[Super Nova]

SN, the fact remains in this particular instance, the Lindt cafe gunman was not an ISIS linked terrorist as some reported, rather was an unbalanced loon who slipped through the cracks of our judicial and mental health care system.

He isnt the first, and I suspect he wont be the last.

I agree. Nothing to do with IS however by displaying the flag as he did he was trying to make a connection to justify his appalling actions.

My point is, those that don't understand there is no connection will fall into the hate trap.

He was about to be busted and chose death by policeman rather than top himself. Coward.

[5.56 NATO]

SN, the fact remains in this particular instance, the Lindt cafe gunman was not an ISIS linked terrorist as some reported, rather was an unbalanced loon who slipped through the cracks of our judicial and mental health care system.

He isnt the first, and I suspect he wont be the last.

Islam was/is the root cause of this episode, this muslim has been carrying on for years with muslim shit, THE FACT THERE IS NO CONNECTION TO ISIS MEANS FUCK ALL. These pricks have committed tens of thousands of acts of terrorism long before ISIS appeared. Keep on defending them

[Super Nova]

SN, the fact remains in this particular instance, the Lindt cafe gunman was not an ISIS linked terrorist as some reported, rather was an unbalanced loon who slipped through the cracks of our judicial and mental health care system.

He isnt the first, and I suspect he wont be the last.

Islam was/is the root cause of this episode, this muslim has been carrying on for years with muslim shit, THE FACT THERE IS NO CONNECTION TO ISIS MEANS FUCK ALL. These pricks have committed tens of thousands of acts of terrorism long before ISIS appeared. Keep on defending them

No they cannot not be defended.

What can be defended is blaming Islam.