Global Warming

[Rorschach]

Oh I appreciated your post and thought it good you recognising, finally, this part of the equation.

[boxy]

Get back to us when you recognise the same (for "same", read "worse") in your own camp, Binky.

There's a good boy

[Super Nova]

While a few bad scientists with an agenda are muddying the water... we still have signs of warming.

It may feel cold outside but it’s only getting hotter



In Cumbria the sheep were shaking off the first snow of winter yesterday. In the skies above, British delegates heading to a UN climate change conference in Peru were contemplating something rather less seasonal: news that heatwaves of the sort that used to be felt in Europe once every 1,000 years are now expected every five years, according to a paper published in Nature Climate Change. It investigated how recent rises in temperatures have affected the probability of summers like that of 2003, in which 20,000 people died prematurely. Peter Stott, one of the authors, said: “By the 2030s or 2040s we could be looking at these types of temperatures occurring regularly. Events that are really rather rare could happen pretty often. Projections of future changes suggest that, by the end of the century, summers as hot as 2003 will be considered unusually cool.”

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/weather/a ... 291711.ece

[Outlaw Yogi]

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Can you explain when you got taken in by this religion that made you completely ignore all common sense?

Can you elaborate on which Doomsday church tells you what to say and how to ignore the blatantly obvious?

No no.

IQ is saying I belong to a Doomsday Church that ignores the science of there is NO Warming.

IQs church is one of "she'll be right mate... do nothing and when we pull our head out the sand... science will have fixed it without having to reduce emissions because there was never a warming problem created by mankind"

I say the science and forecast say otherwise and we need to mitigate the risks now.

No no, IQ is parroting the mantra coming straight out of the "Lets blow up the world for Jesus" fundamentalist pseudo christian cults, who reject science, and climate science/meteorology in particular on the grounds 'only their deity can destroy the world' .

The ironic hypocrisy of these cults is they refer to science as a religion, while hiding the fact they believe in fairy tales from their own religion.

[IQS.RLOW]

Your parroting of the AGW cultists is cute.

Lets check the records again....oh yeah, still no significant warming for 18 years and 2 months.

Not to worry...like all good cultists, your doomsday predictions mean shit and you just change them everytime your last prediction doesn't happen.

[Rorschach]

While a few bad scientists with an agenda are muddying the water... we still have signs of warming.

It may feel cold outside but it’s only getting hotter

In Cumbria the sheep were shaking off the first snow of winter yesterday. In the skies above, British delegates heading to a UN climate change conference in Peru were contemplating something rather less seasonal: news that heatwaves of the sort that used to be felt in Europe once every 1,000 years are now expected every five years, according to a paper published in Nature Climate Change. It investigated how recent rises in temperatures have affected the probability of summers like that of 2003, in which 20,000 people died prematurely. Peter Stott, one of the authors, said: “By the 2030s or 2040s we could be looking at these types of temperatures occurring regularly. Events that are really rather rare could happen pretty often. Projections of future changes suggest that, by the end of the century, summers as hot as 2003 will be considered unusually cool.”

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/weather/a ... 291711.ece

Oh yes and we accounted for it...

Second example: last week, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), a supposedly scientific body, issued a press release stating that this is likely to be the warmest year in a century or more, based on surface temperatures. Yet this predicted record would be only one hundredth of a degree above 2010 and two hundredths of a degree above 2005 — with an error range of one tenth of a degree. True scientists would have said: this year is unlikely to be significantly warmer than 2010 or 2005 and left it at that.

[TheCult]

Headline:

"California Drought Most Severe in 1200 years"

By 1 degree :

[Rorschach]

I'm still waiting for them to wake up and address the FACT it was as hot 1200 years ago

[Neferti]

I am still waiting to find out who was keeping a record of temperatures way back in AD 814!

Charlemagne died that year.

http://www.history.com/topics/charlemagne

Lots of interesting stuff but I didn't see anything about The Weather. Figment of somebody's imagination, perhaps?

[Rorschach]

1) The Settled Scientists have wholly corrupted the process of "peer review."

Phil Jones, director of the CRU, writing to Michael Mann, creator (le mot juste) of the now discredited "hockey stick" graph, about two academics who disagree with him:

I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow - even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!

Professor Mann on an academic journal foolish enough to publish dissenting views:

Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal.

Professor Jones's reply:

I will be emailing the journal to tell them I'm having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor.

And you'll be glad to hear they did!

2) The Settled Scientists have refused to comply with Freedom of Information requests by (illegally) deleting relevant documents.

Phil Jones to Michael Mann on Feb. 3, 2005:

The two MMs [McKitrick and McIntyre, the latter the dogged retired Ontarian who runs the Climate Audit website] have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the U.K., I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone.

And, indeed, the CRU subsequently announced that they had "inadvertently deleted" the requested data.

3) The Settled Scientists have attempted to (in the words of one email) "hide the decline" — that's to say, obscure the awkward fact that "global warming" stopped over a decade ago.

Phil Jones, July 5, 2005:

The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. Okay it has but it is only seven years of data and it isn't statistically significant.

4) The Settled Scientists have tortured the data into compliance with political requirements.

From the computer code for one of the "Mann" models:

Plots (1 at a time) yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD reconstructions of growing season temperatures. Uses 'corrected' MXD - but shouldn't usually plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to the real temperatures.

http://www.steynonline.com/2697/how-the ... ot-settled