Double Dissolution

[skippy]

I would accept Turnbull as PM- I like him and it has been said that he should be a member of the labor party, that his values reflect that more of the Labor Party than Liberal...if he stepped up as leader, I would have no problem with a Lib. govt. I would even vote for him.

It seems the majority of voters agree with you. The rusted on conservatives hate him and claim he is a Labor stooge but truth be known he is a Liberal in the true old fashioned sense Menzies, Gorton, Fraser et al. Howard changed the party from a liberal party to a Conservative party.

[skippy]

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... ge_or_die/

Bolts Article on the Abbott Government -" Change now or die"

Thanks Solonoid, but can you click on the link and actually copy and post the article in full. Rorscach isn't able to access it via the link.

[Rorschach]

Malcolm already failed as leader...
The Libs would lose the conservative vote.
He is a Labor PM not a Liberal PM.
That's why so many of you prog rusted-ons want him as liberal leader.

[skippy]

Malcolm already failed as leader...
The Libs would lose the conservative vote.
He is a Labor PM not a Liberal PM.
That's why so many of you prog rusted-ons want him as liberal leader.

I disagree. Conservatives going to vote Labor? No they aren't. They have to preference someone above the other, no matter the spin you put on it you can vote for the free midi em free the marijuana party et al but eventually it come down to putting Liberal or Labor before the other and conservatives are not going to preference Labor before Liberal. So the argument you would lose conservative votes is null and void.
Turnbull would win an election for which ever major party installed him as leader. Half the Liberal voters would happily vote for him as would half the Labor so he doesn't even need the preferences of those not happy.
Australia is in a position where both major parties have total fuckwits leading them and every opinion poll tells us Turnbull is always the people's choice above everyone else. I had to laugh at the news lmd press last week pushing Bishop, she polled half of Turnbulls popularity.
I hope the Libs don't install Malcolm, they ignore the public wishes thinking they know best so fuck them they don't deserve to govern any more than Labor do. Labor ignored their own rank and file too with Shorten over Albo.

PS thanks for posting up that article, Solonoid.

[Rorschach]

As Abbotts extreme austerity budget has been blocked in the senate he cannot recover in time.. if his plan was too create jobs, boost small business etc and win voters back- too late, he cannot do that now. He only has 2 short years to turn this around and the next budget will fail as well..he has lost the confidence of his own party and the people . He ( and Hockey) lost credibilty very quickly by moving in as a slash and burn PM and it frightened pp, we were already told to brace ourselves against Abbott and he played up to all expectations..attacking everything- jobs, tertiary education- the environment. foreign investment..welfare and every support to the needy was stripped away and at the same time taking away jobs to those who needed them most, youth etc. There is no hope for a future under this man. He only caters to Gina Reinhart and her cohorts...he is hoping to send all the peasants to work in her mine for $1. a day.

Abbott is rotated, well and truly.

You wouldn't know an extreme austerity budget if it hit you on the head.
Go to Greece and find out.
Oh and instead of mindreading and presenting wishful thinking as fact please post any facts you have to back your post up.

[Rorschach]

They are my opinions, it seems I agree with the 55% TPP of news poll this week that Abbott is not worth Re electing. After trailing for fourteen polls in row no government has gone on to win an election. You're entitled to prove me wrong, good luck.

Please post the poll question and stats....
so far I'm thinking the next election will prove you wrong Skip...
What has Labor offered except more of the same.... and we just voted them out resoundingly.

[Rorschach]

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... ge_or_die/

Bolts Article on the Abbott Government -" Change now or die"

The request was to post the article... skippy already posted the link.

[Rorschach]

I would accept Turnbull as PM- I like him and it has been said that he should be a member of the labor party, that his values reflect that more of the Labor Party than Liberal...if he stepped up as leader, I would have no problem with a Lib. govt. I would even vote for him.

Well gee thanks for proving my point

[Rorschach]

I would accept Turnbull as PM- I like him and it has been said that he should be a member of the labor party, that his values reflect that more of the Labor Party than Liberal...if he stepped up as leader, I would have no problem with a Lib. govt. I would even vote for him.

It seems the majority of voters agree with you. The rusted on conservatives hate him and claim he is a Labor stooge but truth be known he is a Liberal in the true old fashioned sense Menzies, Gorton, Fraser et al. Howard changed the party from a liberal party to a Conservative party.

Oh dear that is not true Skip.
Oh and BTW a true conservative wouldn't have brought in the GST. Something Keating wanted to do and Hawke stopped him from doing it.
Oh and Skip, if Menzies had his way we'd still be singing God save the Queen etc, etc, etc...

[skippy]

They are my opinions, it seems I agree with the 55% TPP of news poll this week that Abbott is not worth Re electing. After trailing for fourteen polls in row no government has gone on to win an election. You're entitled to prove me wrong, good luck.

Please post the poll question and stats....
so far I'm thinking the next election will prove you wrong Skip...
What has Labor offered except more of the same.... and we just voted them out resoundingly.

What did Abbott offer at the last election?
I don't care if you believe me or the polls or not I saw the same thing when Labor were in power. What I have never seen is a party win an election after losing fourteen straight polls in a row starting only three months after they were elected. Feel free to prove me wrong.