G20 debacle

[mantra]

Abbott puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. He didn't want climate change discussed because he believed it would distract from the main issues, but he was usurped by the super powers who want to focus on climate change and so they should. We have to keep up if we want to be called a first world nation.

He also humiliated himself by whining about domestic policy, but then went on to boast about his success in repealing the carbon tax and stopping the boats.

Abbott's like an excited little kid who's just overdosed on sugar. He's embarrassing.

But in a one-two manoeuvre that caught Australia off guard, Obama upstaged Abbott and made certain it was the talk of the conference anyway. First came the joint US/China post-2020 greenhouse emission reduction targets announced in Beijing on the eve of the summit and then the $3bn Green Climate Fund pledge made in a keynote speech as Abbott was greeting other world leaders across town.

“No nation is immune and every nation has a responsibility to do its part,” Obama said. “You will recall at the beginning I said the US and Australia has a lot in common. Well one of the things we have in common is we produce a lot of carbon … which means we’ve got to step up.”

He said the targets he announced with the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, sent “a powerful message to the world that all countries, whether you are a developed country, a developing country or somewhere in between, you’ve got to be able to overcome old divides, look squarely at the science and reach a strong global climate agreement next year”.

“And if China and the US can agree on this then the world can agree on this, we can get this done and it is necessary for us to get it done.”

But in the backrooms of the G20, Australia was continuing to resist language in the official communique encouraging countries to make pledges to the Green Climate Fund, prompting environmental and aid groups to warn the host nation was appearing like a “blocker”.

Abbott was also attacked for focusing on his own domestic agenda as he welcomed the world leaders to a G20 “retreat” on Saturday morning.

Instead of focusing on world crises such as stagnating growth, the Ebola epidemic or conflicts, Abbott cited his difficulties in legislating for a new fee for when Australians go to the doctor and a plan to deregulate the higher education sector.

Abbott “thanked God” he had stopped the “illegal boats” – carrying asylum seekers – and had successfully repealed the carbon tax, but complained it was proving “massively difficult” to pass his budget cuts. The opposition leader, Bill Shorten, described the address as “weird and graceless”.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/n ... -sidelined

[Rorschach]

Abbott puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. No he doesn't that is a lie mantra. He didn't want climate change discussed because he believed it would distract from the main issues, really you are a mind reader now I suppose... given the G20 is an economic forum and there is a global forum for "climate change" he would be right anyway... but he was usurped by the super powers who want to focus on climate change and so they should. Rubbish... Green propaganda rubbish... alarmist rubbish... We have to keep up if we want to be called a first world nation. More rubbish... why do you post so much rubbish?

He also humiliated himself by whining about domestic policy, No he's not and Maley explained why very succinctly on The Insiders.. you however spout anti-Abbot rubbish you read and listen to from the anti-abbott media... but then went on to boast about his success in repealing the carbon tax and stopping the boats. If he was just going to boast mantra he wouldn't mention failures yet another of your personal attacks due to your personal and political bias. BTW they did stop the boats and repeal the carbon tax

Abbott's like an excited little kid who's just overdosed on sugar. He's embarrassing. More ad hom crap from you.

But in a one-two manoeuvre that caught Australia off guard, Obama upstaged Abbott and made certain it was the talk of the conference anyway. First came the joint US/China post-2020 greenhouse emission reduction targets announced in Beijing on the eve of the summit and then the $3bn Green Climate Fund pledge made in a keynote speech as Abbott was greeting other world leaders across town. It has always been on the agenda... yet another anti abbott media beat up repeated by an anti abbott fan... YOU

“No nation is immune and every nation has a responsibility to do its part,” Obama said. “You will recall at the beginning I said the US and Australia has a lot in common. Well one of the things we have in common is we produce a lot of carbon … which means we’ve got to step up.” We don't produce anywhere near as much "carbon" as the states and we don't produce radioactive waste do we mantra?

He said the targets he announced with the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, sent “a powerful message to the world that all countries, whether you are a developed country, a developing country or somewhere in between, you’ve got to be able to overcome old divides, look squarely at the science and reach a strong global climate agreement next year”. Obama is a Thermageddonist and he won't be President soon. China will keep increasing emissions till 2030 and lets not for one minute believe you can suddenly turn that tap off...

“And if China and the US can agree on this then the world can agree on this, we can get this done and it is necessary for us to get it done.” In 100 years according to the latest IPCC assessment... yes suddenly we have blown out the "tipping point" by 100 years.

But in the backrooms of the G20, Australia was continuing to resist language in the official communique encouraging countries to make pledges to the Green Climate Fund, prompting environmental and aid groups to warn the host nation was appearing like a “blocker”.

Well I hope we don't get our financial blood sucked out by yet another fund based on; alarmist rhetoric, ignorant leaders, dubious science and flawed modelling.

Abbott was also attacked for focusing on his own domestic agenda as he welcomed the world leaders to a G20 “retreat” on Saturday morning. yes by the LW Prog media...

Instead of focusing on world crises such as stagnating growth, the Ebola epidemic or conflicts, Abbott cited his difficulties in legislating for a new fee for when Australians go to the doctor and a plan to deregulate the higher education sector.

Abbott “thanked God” he had stopped the “illegal boats”


– carrying asylum seekers – and had successfully repealed the carbon tax, but complained
Really "complained"? more dishonesty, the guy just mentioned as a fact that this was happening, it's called honesty mantra.
it was proving “massively difficult” to pass his budget cuts. The opposition leader, Bill Shorten, described the address as “weird and graceless”. Good one Bill, what would you expect mantra...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/n ... -sidelined

The guardian attack Abbott...? oh gee what a surprise.

[Super Nova]

Well they gave Russia as good dressing down. The news here reported he is going home one day early.

Not a good sign I think for on-going relations.

[Black Orchid]

Yes, Putin has left but is there really any need for headlines like this?

EVEN the koala didn't seem to want a bar of Vladimir Putin at the G20.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/la ... 7124770552" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Super Nova]

Yes, Putin has left but is there really any need for headlines like this?

EVEN the koala didn't seem to want a bar of Vladimir Putin at the G20.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/la ... n%20false;

Well there is only so much a Koala can bear.

[Rorschach]

I feel sorry for Putin, Why the guy invaded another soveriegn country annexed part of it and supplied the equipment used to shoot down an airliner killing hundreds of innocents and 38 of your fellow Australians. I think he was treated very badly, why? see above he turned up and he knew the response would be very lukewarm to cool, and we all know why but still he turned up, with his warships I think that was courageous of him tbh. He was largely ignored by other leaders and he ate alone on occasion.. I thought they might be a bit bigger than that, acting like school yard bullies ! Assholes- I'm sorry whom is the bully and arsehole? see above...

Abbott is always embarrassing ! Untrue, mindless political and personal bias does not make an argument true. In his closing speech he seemed calm and measured and I admit today was the only day I tuned into the G20 so not sure how was measured up on the other day's ! Obama always speaks well..a pleasure to listen to. except when his teleprompter goes haywire.

[Rorschach]

I feel sorry for Putin, Why the guy invaded another soveriegn country annexed part of it and supplied the equipment used to shoot down an airliner killing hundreds of innocents and 38 of your fellow Australians. If your going to keep writing within posts with coloured texts I wont respond to you any longer- it's lazy and messy, I used to do it and now I see how fucking annoying it is!I think he was treated very badly, why? see above he turned up and he knew the response would be very lukewarm to cool, and we all know why but still he turned up, with his warships I think that was courageous of him tbh. He was largely ignored by other leaders and he ate alone on occasion.. I thought they might be a bit bigger than that, acting like school yard bullies ! Assholes- I'm sorry whom is the bully and arsehole? see above...

Abbott is always embarrassing ! Untrue, mindless political and personal bias does not make an argument true.

My opinion of Abbott does not point to a personal bias, it is what it is idiot, he is embarrassing FACT- that right wing inferior brain strikes again DWMT

In his closing speech he seemed calm and measured and I admit today was the only day I tuned into the G20 so not sure how was measured up on the other day's ! Obama always speaks well..a pleasure to listen to. except when his teleprompter goes haywire.

It's like if you accuse me of personal bias it will somehow put me in my place-wrong- I am biased against Abbott I hate him, but when I say he is embarrassing that happens to be the truth and most of Australia agree's with me...ffs your so dumb.

No that's YOU being too lazy not me.
If they were to increase the quote limit here I'd not use it so often.
If you made points as points and not create sentences with multiple points mostly all wrong in them I'd also not have to use it.
You are biased, that's not my problem its yours.
The fact you hate someone you probably don't even know is also pathetic.
As for dumb... you're a troll... with no credibility so why would I care what you say.
Once again you have failed to address any of the salient points.
You've just wasted my time replying to your baseless trolling

[mellie]

Abbott puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. He didn't want climate change discussed because he believed it would distract from the main issues, but he was usurped by the super powers who want to focus on climate change and so they should. We have to keep up if we want to be called a first world nation.

He also humiliated himself by whining about domestic policy, but then went on to boast about his success in repealing the carbon tax and stopping the boats.

Abbott's like an excited little kid who's just overdosed on sugar. He's embarrassing.

But in a one-two manoeuvre that caught Australia off guard, Obama upstaged Abbott and made certain it was the talk of the conference anyway. First came the joint US/China post-2020 greenhouse emission reduction targets announced in Beijing on the eve of the summit and then the $3bn Green Climate Fund pledge made in a keynote speech as Abbott was greeting other world leaders across town.

“No nation is immune and every nation has a responsibility to do its part,” Obama said. “You will recall at the beginning I said the US and Australia has a lot in common. Well one of the things we have in common is we produce a lot of carbon … which means we’ve got to step up.”

He said the targets he announced with the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, sent “a powerful message to the world that all countries, whether you are a developed country, a developing country or somewhere in between, you’ve got to be able to overcome old divides, look squarely at the science and reach a strong global climate agreement next year”.

“And if China and the US can agree on this then the world can agree on this, we can get this done and it is necessary for us to get it done.”

But in the backrooms of the G20, Australia was continuing to resist language in the official communique encouraging countries to make pledges to the Green Climate Fund, prompting environmental and aid groups to warn the host nation was appearing like a “blocker”.

Abbott was also attacked for focusing on his own domestic agenda as he welcomed the world leaders to a G20 “retreat” on Saturday morning.

Instead of focusing on world crises such as stagnating growth, the Ebola epidemic or conflicts, Abbott cited his difficulties in legislating for a new fee for when Australians go to the doctor and a plan to deregulate the higher education sector.

Abbott “thanked God” he had stopped the “illegal boats” – carrying asylum seekers – and had successfully repealed the carbon tax, but complained it was proving “massively difficult” to pass his budget cuts. The opposition leader, Bill Shorten, described the address as “weird and graceless”.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/n ... -sidelined

Mantra...Abbott simply put a cold-cock revivalist in his place.

“Interestingly, Russia’s economy is declining even as Russia’s assertiveness is increasing and one of the points that I tried to make to President Putin is that Russia would be so much more attractive if it was aspiring to be a superpower for peace and freedom and prosperity, if it was trying to be a superpower for ideas and for values, instead of trying to recreate the lost glories of tsarism or the old Soviet Union,’’

Mr Abbott said.

[Rorschach]

Putting you on ignore next time you abuse me.. and you don't have any point's , salient or otherwise...you my friend are pointless.

Wassup, running away because you've got nothing yet again.
You always choose to lie and abuse when you have nothing and have been shown to have nothing.

I made my points re Russia and Putin... you ran away from the truth and just posted ad hom and crap.
Can't hide it, it's there for all to see
Did I prove you to be an ignorant fool, yet again? You bet I did.

[mellie]

Note to the Roach...

This topic isnt about you.

Mantra...Abbott simply put a cold-cock revivalist in his place.

“Interestingly, Russia’s economy is declining even as Russia’s assertiveness is increasing and one of the points that I tried to make to President Putin is that Russia would be so much more attractive if it was aspiring to be a superpower for peace and freedom and prosperity, if it was trying to be a superpower for ideas and for values, instead of trying to recreate the lost glories of tsarism or the old Soviet Union,’’
Mr Abbott said.