Gough Gone

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Re: Gough Gone

Post by skippy » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:31 pm

More than forty reasons why Gough was great and conservatives hate him.
: "It was the Whitlam Government that 1. ended Conscription, 2. withdrew Australian troops from Vietnam, 3. implemented Equal Pay for Women, 4. launched an Inquiry into Education and the Funding of Government and Non-government Schools on a Needs Basis, 5. established a separate ministry responsible for Aboriginal Affairs, 6. established the single Department of Defence, 7. withdrew support for apartheid–South Africa, 8. granted independence to Papua New Guinea, 9. abolished Tertiary Education Fees, 10. established the Tertiary Education Assistance Scheme (TEAS), 11. increased pensions, 12. established Medibank, 13. established controls on Foreign Ownership of Australian resources, 14. passed the Family Law Act establishing No-Fault Divorce, 15. passed a series of laws banning Racial and Sexual Discrimination, 16. extended Maternity Leave and Benefits for Single Mothers, 17. introduced One-Vote-One-Value to democratize the electoral system, 18. implemented wide-ranging reforms of the ALP's organization, 19. initiated Australia's first Federal Legislation on Human Rights, the Environment and Heritage, 20. established the Legal Aid Office, 21. established the National Film and Television School, 22. launched construction of National Gallery of Australia, 23. established the Australian Development Assistance Agency, 24. reopened the Australian Embassy in Peking after 24 years, 25. established the Prices Justification Tribunal, 26. revalued the Australian Dollar, 27. cut tariffs across the board, 28. established the Trade Practices Commission, 29. established the Australian National Parks and Wildlife Service, 30. established the Law Reform Commission, 31. established the Australian Film Commission, 32. established the Australia Council, 33. established the Australian Heritage Commission, 34. established the Consumer Affairs Commission, 35. established the Technical and Further Education Commission, 36. implemented a national employment and training program, 37. created Telecom and Australia Post to replace the Postmaster-General's Department, 38. devised the Order of Australia Honors System to replace the British Honors system, 39. abolished appeals to the Privy Council, 40. changed the National Anthem to 'Advance Australia Fair' (confirmed at 1977 Referendum), 41. instituted Aboriginal Land Rights, and 42. sewered most of Sydney. (Hard to believe, isn't it, that Sydney wasn't even sewered 40 years ago???) Mind you it took them all of 3 years!!! Much loved, fondly remembered, Rest In Peace GOUGH."

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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:53 pm

Solonoid wrote:
Rorschach wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 193s8.html

Bolt...
"Whitlam explored the gulf between seeming and doing, and tumbled into the chasm,"
Jones...
"He damaged the economy through the absence of any prime-ministerial control,"
"They [Mr and Mrs Whitlam] were people of significant dignity, notwithstanding whatever your differences might be in relation to their politics."
James Paterson, deputy executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs, a conservative think tank, praised Mr Whitlam for ending conscription and cutting tariffs, but said that his other policies were "regrettable".
"No prime minister changed Australia more than Gough Whitlam. He was a transformative prime minister," said Mr Paterson.
"He oversaw one of the largest increases in the size of government in Australian history. It will require a Liberal prime minister as bold as Gough Whitlam to reverse that regrettable trend."

As someone said here already, if you can't say anything nice, especially as he only just drew his last breath not 6 hours ago..SHUT UP. I didn't say anything untruthful or bad mouth Gough, so bugger off. It seems like you knew him personally Binky..as did I ..Gough and I had a few intimate dinners and by golly gosh iffn if he didn't half know how to treat a woman ~ pure class I say.. Really the love of his life was margaret... liar liar panties on fire... :roll:

Was talking to a very esteemed ex animal this morning and he said the left are very quick to tear to pieces any prominent political figure, they have no respect at all..I had to agree..I have seen so many nasty mouthed lefties it makes me feel ashamed to say I am one.If you're still annoyed, Solo-noid? If you cant do anything but complain and be disingenuous, bugger off, if all you want to do is troll and shoot messengers then bugger off.
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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:55 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:To his credit (IMO) are/were free health care and free tertiary education.

To his discredit (IMO) was the double crossing/sell out of East Timor and West Papua/Iryan Jaya to Indonesia.
Yep unfortunately education since Hawke hasn't been free. Not that it ever really was BTW.
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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:46 pm

skippy wrote:More than forty reasons why Gough was great and conservatives hate him.
: "It was the Whitlam Government that 1. ended Conscription, ok 2. withdrew Australian troops from Vietnam, ok 3. implemented Equal Pay for Women, nope hasn't happened 4. launched an Inquiry into Education and the Funding of Government and Non-government Schools on a Needs Basis, yet nothing has happened even now 5. established a separate ministry responsible for Aboriginal Affairs, discrimination 6. established the single Department of Defence,ok 7. withdrew support for apartheid–South Africa, ok 8. granted independence to Papua New Guinea,done way too early 9. abolished Tertiary Education Fees, yet we have hecs 10. established the Tertiary Education Assistance Scheme (TEAS), didn't last 11. increased pensions, everyone does 12. established Medibank, ok 13. established controls on Foreign Ownership of Australian resources, not enough done 14. passed the Family Law Act establishing No-Fault Divorce, ok 15. passed a series of laws banning Racial and Sexual Discrimination, and look at the mess we have these days 16. extended Maternity Leave and Benefits for Single Mothers, leading to increase in single unwed mothers 17. introduced One-Vote-One-Value to democratize the electoral system, not true 18. implemented wide-ranging reforms of the ALP's organization, not true 19. initiated Australia's first Federal Legislation on Human Rights, the Environment and Heritage, PC crap 20. established the Legal Aid Office, you mean the family law debacle don't you? 21. established the National Film and Television School, pork barrelling the arts 22. launched construction of National Gallery of Australia, pork barrelling the arts 23. established the Australian Development Assistance Agency, repealed by fraser 24. reopened the Australian Embassy in Peking after 24 years, ok 25. established the Prices Justification Tribunal, well how is that working? 26. revalued the Australian Dollar, which had to be corrected by Hawke and Keating later 27. cut tariffs across the board, ok for some not others 28. established the Trade Practices Commission, replaced 29. established the Australian National Parks and Wildlife Service, ok 30. established the Law Reform Commission, an in house vested interest body a new body was formed 31. established the Australian Film Commission, hows that going... more arts porkbarrelling 32. established the Australia Council, more arty farty funds 33. established the Australian Heritage Commission, unnecessary bureacracy 34. established the Consumer Affairs Commission, oh dear... 35. established the Technical and Further Education Commission, why 36. implemented a national employment and training program, dead 37. created Telecom and Australia Post to replace the Postmaster-General's Department, ok but unnecessary 38. devised the Order of Australia Honors System to replace the British Honors system, why 39. abolished appeals to the Privy Council, ok 40. changed the National Anthem to 'Advance Australia Fair' (confirmed at 1977 Referendum), huh? wasn't that under Hawke? who wrote this shit? 41. instituted Aboriginal Land Rights, racist discriminatory unnecessary pc crap and 42. sewered most of Sydney. ok and melbourne apparently (Hard to believe, isn't it, that Sydney wasn't even sewered 40 years ago???) Mind you it took them all of 3 years!!! Much loved, fondly remembered, Rest In Peace GOUGH." Like I said his lasting legacy will be medicare and Sewerage, good onya Gough.
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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:48 pm

Solonoid wrote:What message were you trying to convey exactly-- troll ? Oh so now you are a troll for telling the truth eh. Try looking in a mirror for a troll that'll work.

A man who gave his services to the betterment of this country deserved nothing better than to have a cockroach on some far flung forum regurgitate the contents of his ass all over his impressive and esteemed career. He made a difference in this country , not many of us do..how about you ? Got nothing best you say nothing troll...
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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:25 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:To his credit (IMO) are/were free health care and free tertiary education.
Agreed, and to give credit where credit is due he ended conscription, withdrew the last of our troops from Vietnam, made sweeping divorce law reforms and introduced equal pay.

His list of failures is very long and we are still enduring their effects today. :mad

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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Neferti » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:55 pm

NOTHING is FREE. We taxpayers foot the bill, remember that!

November 1975 and Whitlam was the first time I voted and I voted LIBERAL, to get rid of Whitlam.

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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:04 pm

Neferti~ wrote:NOTHING is FREE. We taxpayers foot the bill, remember that!
It all depends on how you look at it and how you want your tax dollars spent. I pay taxes so that things I think should be available to ALL Australians are ... and are "free".

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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:13 pm

Solonoid wrote:
Solonoid wrote:What message were you trying to convey exactly-- troll ?

A man who gave his services to the betterment of this country deserved nothing better than to have a cockroach on some far flung forum regurgitate the contents of his ass all over his impressive and esteemed career. He made a difference in this country , not many of us do..how about you ?

Just as I thought-- nothing ! :roll :roll :zzzz
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If you don't know about people and you don't best you just shut up eh. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Gough Gone

Post by Neferti » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:35 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:NOTHING is FREE. We taxpayers foot the bill, remember that!
It all depends on how you look at it and how you want your tax dollars spent. I pay taxes so that things I think should be available to ALL Australians are ... and are "free".
Sorry, Black Orchid, but the Government spends OUR money. The Government doesn't earn anything, except our TAXES.

Prior to Whitlam bringing in FREE medical and FREE university education, it was already being paid for by the people ... or in the case of University education .... via Commonwealth Scholarships or whatever ( brought in before Whitlam), because the kids were clever and/or those who could afford, did so.

Then, once FREE University education came in, all the drongos could get an Arts Degree because it was FREE, and, believe me, I worked with many of them. Useless.

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