Global Warming

[Rorschach]

The ice is still melting, glaciers are still retreating, the seas are still rising, AGW is still happening.

Oh you mean the glaciers in the throughly disproven debunked shameful IPCC report? those glaciers?

[GeorgeH]

Glaciers other than a very few positioned just right to gain from the extra moisture in the air due to AGW.

[Rorschach]

Sea level rises....
Anyone with an ounce of common sense can find lots of this on the Net.
Sea levels;
1/ don't rise globally.
2/ have been shown not to have risen or fallen beyond natural measures
3/ are "mistakenly" reported due to; biased/vested interests, subsumption of land masses.

Appropriate points highlighted (yet again) for Monk who ignores all facts.

New Major Study Determines Dangerous, Accelerating Sea Levels Due To CO2 Emissions Is Fantasy

The IPCC's discredited alarmist global warming propaganda took another serious hit from a major scientific study on the empirical evidence regarding accelerating sea levels - per the study, sea levels, due to natural, long-term oscillations, likely to increase only a scant 9 inches by century-end

The IPCC's refusal to incorporate and/or accept any empirical evidence that is contrary to their climate models' alarmist catastrophe predictions is well known. As a result, the IPCC's scary global warming predictions have been shown to be egregiously wrong and terribly misleading for policymakers.

The anti-science fantasy approach to the IPCC's political-driven "analysis" has suffered another major blow from a new study by Nicola Scafetta. This latest research confirms previous studies about just how wrong the IPCC has been about those "accelerating" sea level increases.

"This is a major paper, which undertakes a comprehensive review of recent studies, which diverge widely in their findings...main reason for divergence is the length of records used in studies, and shows that the quasi-cyclic oscillations of the major ocean basins largely account for the differences in those studies conclusions...it is shown that the periodicity of the major oscillations, being 60 to 70 years, require a minimum record length of around 110 years in order to prevent polynomial fitting of long term secular trends being contaminated with shorter term quasi-cyclic variation. Using tide gauge records going back as far as 1700...compares the trends in sea level rise acceleration at widely spread geographical locations once the quasi-cyclic components are removed and finds the long term global average to be very small – around 0.01mm/yr...study suggests that sea level rise during the C21st [21st century] will be around 277+/-7mm, or about 9 inches." [Nicola Scafetta 2013: Climate Dynamics]

Conclusions:

1. An analysis of long-term empirical evidence confirms 20th and 21st sea level increases have been a function of long-term natural oscillation forces.

2. Potential sea level rise by end of century is highly likely to be less than a foot, well below the IPCC's "scientists'" predictions.

3. The IPCC's climate-model alarmism regarding dangerous, accelerating sea levels due to human CO2 emissions is without empirical merit - summarily, an IPCC fantasy.

Additional sea level charts and postings. More peer-reviewed studies.

[Rorschach]

Glaciers other than a very few positioned just right to gain from the extra moisture in the air due to AGW.

If you've got nothing... best to say nothing monk.

[Rorschach]

Arctic ice melt....

Global warming? Satellite data shows Arctic sea ice coverage up 50 percent!
by Dan McGrath on December 16, 2013 in Al Gore, Failed predictions, Global Cooling, Ice
By Michael Bastasch

It was only five years ago in December that Al Gore claimed that the polar ice caps would be completely melted by now. But he might be surprised to find out that Arctic ice coverage is up 50 percent this year from 2012 levels.

“Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.

The North Pole is still there, and growing. BBC News reports that data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft shows that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 9,000 cubic kilometers (2,100 cubic miles) by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 6,000 cubic kilometers (1,400 cubic miles) during the same time last year.

Remember the cries when the Northwest passage was open for the first time....
since...
since...
since the last time it was open...

Remember Gore and the Polar Bear scare....
well...
Polar Bear numbers are...
you guessed it...

UP!

Oh and Monkey boy the Arctic "Climate" Council says most of the melting up there has been due to recent increases in Methane.... you'll need to pass that onto the ALP so they can work out a tax for that too.

Oh and Monk....
why do you think Greenland is called GREENland?

[GeorgeH]

Yet the minimum ice extent this year was less than the minimum last year and both are more than two standard deviations from the longer term minimum.

Mind you, ice extent is not a good measurement—ice can spread due to winds and currents—so the volume of ice is more normally used and that is shrinking too.

[5.56 NATO]

Must be good to be an expert on everything ay monkeyboy, what are your scientific credentials or did some other leftist clown tell you all this shit outside centrelink. You do realise that even if you one day do decide to tell the truth no one will believe you

[Aussie]

Must be good to be an expert on everything ay monkeyboy, what are your scientific credentials or did some other leftist clown tell you all this shit outside centrelink. You do realise that even if you one day do decide to tell the truth no one will believe you

You might have noticed that I rarely say much in these sort of Threads ~ and that is because I have no idea on the matter, not having any scientific back-ground or 'read' on the issue. You 5.56 NATO?

[IQS.RLOW]

Yeah NATO, don't pick on Aussie boyfriend or he will flog you with his wet lettuce.

It's sweet the way Aussie always sticks his head out for Monk when Monk is losing a debate. Must be why it happens so often.

[Aussie]

Yeah NATO, don't pick on Aussie boyfriend or he will flog you with his wet lettuce.

It's sweet the way Aussie always sticks his head out for Monk when Monk is losing a debate. Must be why it happens so often.

Ironic is ironic.