Putin's response is now seen!AiA in Atlanta wrote:"Russia's Vladimir Putin has telephoned President Barack Obama to discuss the US proposal for a diplomatic solution to the crisis in Ukraine, the White House says."
Big Bang in the Ukraine
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DaS Energy
Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
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Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
Bang bang.... this is going to become a world issue if someone doesn't pull their head in.
Putin is doing a good job make the west look impotent.
"EU states said diplomacy should be given more time. " because they are pussies.
Ukraine crisis: Russia 'orchestrating destabilisation of eastern regions'
Moscow instigating violence, says Foreign Secretary William Hague, as pro-Russians seize police building in another city
3:01PM BST 14 Apr 2014
Britain has accused Russia of a "deliberate destabilisation" of Ukraine as pro-Moscow separatists continued to seize yet another police building in the east of the country, ignoring the deadline to leave.
Arriving for talks in Luxembourg for with EU foreign ministers, Foreign Secretary William Hague called for a "clear and united international response" to the latest violations.
He said that EU officials needed to press ahead with preparations for a new wave of hard-hitting economic sanctions against Russia if it continued its efforts to undermine its neighbour.
"There do have to be consequences to a further and further escalation by Russia of this crisis," he told reporters.
Moscow has denied orchestrating the latest wave of seizures of police stations and other public buildings in the largely pro-Russian eastern Ukraine, but Mr Hague said their protestations lacked a "shred of credibility".
"There can't be any real doubt that this is something that has been planned and brought about by Russia," he said.
"It has all the appearances of a further gross, deliberate and premeditated violation of the independence and sovereignty of Ukraine.
"It is also clearly a very dangerous thing to do and therefore there has to be a clear and united international response to that.
"I don't think denials of Russian involvement have a shred of credibility."
Pro-Russian separatists on Monday ignored an ultimatum to leave occupied government buildings in eastern Ukraine while another group of rebels attacked a police headquarters
Rebels in the town of Slaviansk, which was expected on Monday to be the focus of a broad government "anti-terrorist" operation involving the army, issued a bold call for Russian President Vladimir Putin to help them.
Though he said on Monday that the offensive was going ahead, Ukraine's interim president Oleksander Turchinov sacked the state security chief in charge of the operation, signalling possible discord behind the scenes.
Turchinov also took a risky step to try to undercut rebels' demands, by holding out the prospect of a referendum on the future shape of the Ukrainian state. He suggested this could be held at the same time as a presidential election on May 25.
The European Union threatened Russia with more sanctions over its actions in eastern Ukraine, which Britain said was being destabilised by Moscow, although some EU states said diplomacy should be given more time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... gions.html
Putin is doing a good job make the west look impotent.
"EU states said diplomacy should be given more time. " because they are pussies.
Ukraine crisis: Russia 'orchestrating destabilisation of eastern regions'
Moscow instigating violence, says Foreign Secretary William Hague, as pro-Russians seize police building in another city
3:01PM BST 14 Apr 2014
Britain has accused Russia of a "deliberate destabilisation" of Ukraine as pro-Moscow separatists continued to seize yet another police building in the east of the country, ignoring the deadline to leave.
Arriving for talks in Luxembourg for with EU foreign ministers, Foreign Secretary William Hague called for a "clear and united international response" to the latest violations.
He said that EU officials needed to press ahead with preparations for a new wave of hard-hitting economic sanctions against Russia if it continued its efforts to undermine its neighbour.
"There do have to be consequences to a further and further escalation by Russia of this crisis," he told reporters.
Moscow has denied orchestrating the latest wave of seizures of police stations and other public buildings in the largely pro-Russian eastern Ukraine, but Mr Hague said their protestations lacked a "shred of credibility".
"There can't be any real doubt that this is something that has been planned and brought about by Russia," he said.
"It has all the appearances of a further gross, deliberate and premeditated violation of the independence and sovereignty of Ukraine.
"It is also clearly a very dangerous thing to do and therefore there has to be a clear and united international response to that.
"I don't think denials of Russian involvement have a shred of credibility."
Pro-Russian separatists on Monday ignored an ultimatum to leave occupied government buildings in eastern Ukraine while another group of rebels attacked a police headquarters
Rebels in the town of Slaviansk, which was expected on Monday to be the focus of a broad government "anti-terrorist" operation involving the army, issued a bold call for Russian President Vladimir Putin to help them.
Though he said on Monday that the offensive was going ahead, Ukraine's interim president Oleksander Turchinov sacked the state security chief in charge of the operation, signalling possible discord behind the scenes.
Turchinov also took a risky step to try to undercut rebels' demands, by holding out the prospect of a referendum on the future shape of the Ukrainian state. He suggested this could be held at the same time as a presidential election on May 25.
The European Union threatened Russia with more sanctions over its actions in eastern Ukraine, which Britain said was being destabilised by Moscow, although some EU states said diplomacy should be given more time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... gions.html
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DaS Energy
Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
[quote="Super Nova"]Bang bang.... this is going to become a world issue if someone doesn't pull their head in.
Putin is doing a good job make the west look impotent.
"EU states said diplomacy should be given more time. " because they are pussies.
Ukraine crisis: Russia 'orchestrating destabilisation of eastern regions'
Moscow instigating violence, says Foreign Secretary William Hague, as pro-Russians seize police building in another city [end quote]
Britain's Foreign Secretary William Hague!
Putin is doing a good job make the west look impotent.
"EU states said diplomacy should be given more time. " because they are pussies.
Ukraine crisis: Russia 'orchestrating destabilisation of eastern regions'
Moscow instigating violence, says Foreign Secretary William Hague, as pro-Russians seize police building in another city [end quote]
Britain's Foreign Secretary William Hague!
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AiA in Atlanta
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Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
What can anyone really do about it?DaS Energy wrote:Super Nova wrote:Bang bang.... this is going to become a world issue if someone doesn't pull their head in.
Putin is doing a good job make the west look impotent.
"EU states said diplomacy should be given more time. " because they are pussies.
Ukraine crisis: Russia 'orchestrating destabilisation of eastern regions'
Moscow instigating violence, says Foreign Secretary William Hague, as pro-Russians seize police building in another city [end quote]
Britain's Foreign Secretary William Hague!
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AiA in Atlanta
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Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
There is a theory with a trail of clues that being in Kazahstan and not Ukraine that Russia has its eyes on China as being its next energy market ...
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DaS Energy
Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
"The annexation of Crimea has greatly increased Russia’s strategic footprint in the Black Sea region. From a military perspective, the peninsula can serve as an outpost for extending power projection towards southern Ukraine, the Balkans and Turkey. Now that Moscow’s military presence is no longer constrained by former legal agreements with the Ukrainian side, it can fully utilise the geostrategic potential of Crimea by implementing a broad spectrum of mutually reinforcing instruments."FartyoldIQ wrote:Nah. The Rooskies are just taking back what is theirs.
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DaS Energy
Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
John Kerry farting away trying to convince himself he speaks for the world. The blokes a joke and America the same.
US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned that Russia's refusal to take any steps to end the crisis in Ukraine would prove costly, saying the window for Moscow to change course was closing.US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned Russia's refusal to take steps towards ending the crisis in Ukraine will be costly. In a surprise statement to reporters, the top US diplomat slammed Russia for breaking its promises by failing to implement the terms of a deal struck in Geneva last week with the US, EU and Kiev.'For seven days Russia has refused to take a single concrete step in the right direction, not a single Russian official... has publicly gone on television in Ukraine and called on the separatists to support the stand down, to give up their weapons and get out of the Ukrainian buildings,' Kerry said.Ukraine's interim leaders had from 'day one' kept their word after agreeing to the deal, Kerry said, adding that there had been 'seven days, two opposite responses and one truth that cannot be ignored.'He accused Moscow of a 'full-throated effort to actively sabotage the democratic process through gross external intimidation' and described new Russian military exercises on the border of Ukraine on Thursday as 'threatening.''Let me be clear: if Russia continues in this direction it will not just be a grave mistake, it will be an expensive mistake,' the veteran diplomat said, adding 'we are ready to act' as Washington tees up new economic sanctions against Moscow.He highlighted how international sanctions were already taking a toll on the Russian economy, saying investors' confidence has dwindled and some $US70 billion ($A75.6 billion) in capital had fled the Russian financial system.And he accused the Russia Today television network of being deployed to 'promote President Putin's fantasy of what is being played out on the ground.''No amount of propaganda will hide the truth,' Kerry said, as he charged that Moscow was trying to create chaos in eastern Ukraine perhaps in a bid to give it an excuse for a full invasion of its neighbour.'Russia is stoking the very instability that they say they want to quell,' Kerry said. 'In plain sight Russia continues to fund, co-ordinate and fuel a heavily armed separatist movement in Donetsk.'What is happening in eastern Ukraine is a military operation that is well planned and organised, and we assess that it is being carried out at the direction of Russia.''The world knows that peaceful protesters don't come armed with grenade launchers and automatic weapons,' he added.'The window to change course is closing. President (Vladimir) Putin and Russia face a choice. If Russia chooses a path of de-escalation, the international community, all of us, will welcome it.'If Russia does not, the world will make sure that the costs for Russia will only grow.' - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stor ... PsyG8.dpuf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned that Russia's refusal to take any steps to end the crisis in Ukraine would prove costly, saying the window for Moscow to change course was closing.US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned Russia's refusal to take steps towards ending the crisis in Ukraine will be costly. In a surprise statement to reporters, the top US diplomat slammed Russia for breaking its promises by failing to implement the terms of a deal struck in Geneva last week with the US, EU and Kiev.'For seven days Russia has refused to take a single concrete step in the right direction, not a single Russian official... has publicly gone on television in Ukraine and called on the separatists to support the stand down, to give up their weapons and get out of the Ukrainian buildings,' Kerry said.Ukraine's interim leaders had from 'day one' kept their word after agreeing to the deal, Kerry said, adding that there had been 'seven days, two opposite responses and one truth that cannot be ignored.'He accused Moscow of a 'full-throated effort to actively sabotage the democratic process through gross external intimidation' and described new Russian military exercises on the border of Ukraine on Thursday as 'threatening.''Let me be clear: if Russia continues in this direction it will not just be a grave mistake, it will be an expensive mistake,' the veteran diplomat said, adding 'we are ready to act' as Washington tees up new economic sanctions against Moscow.He highlighted how international sanctions were already taking a toll on the Russian economy, saying investors' confidence has dwindled and some $US70 billion ($A75.6 billion) in capital had fled the Russian financial system.And he accused the Russia Today television network of being deployed to 'promote President Putin's fantasy of what is being played out on the ground.''No amount of propaganda will hide the truth,' Kerry said, as he charged that Moscow was trying to create chaos in eastern Ukraine perhaps in a bid to give it an excuse for a full invasion of its neighbour.'Russia is stoking the very instability that they say they want to quell,' Kerry said. 'In plain sight Russia continues to fund, co-ordinate and fuel a heavily armed separatist movement in Donetsk.'What is happening in eastern Ukraine is a military operation that is well planned and organised, and we assess that it is being carried out at the direction of Russia.''The world knows that peaceful protesters don't come armed with grenade launchers and automatic weapons,' he added.'The window to change course is closing. President (Vladimir) Putin and Russia face a choice. If Russia chooses a path of de-escalation, the international community, all of us, will welcome it.'If Russia does not, the world will make sure that the costs for Russia will only grow.' - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stor ... PsyG8.dpuf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Rorschach
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Re: Big Bang in the Ukraine
bump non das
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