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Post by Super Nova » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:16 am

Now this is real progress in China.

China abolishes its labour camps and releases prisoners

China's leaders address Chairman Mao's 're-education through labour' by closing labour camps across country and releasing tens of thousands of prisoners

China appears to have fulfilled a promise to dismantle hundreds of labour camps and release tens of thousands of people who were imprisoned in them without trial.

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A series of visits to six enormous labour camps on the outskirts of Beijing suggested that four had been shut down, with their signs removed. Staff said all their prisoners had been released and they were waiting for further orders.

The other two camps had been converted; one into a drug rehabilitation centre and the other into the second cell block of a local prison.

Interviews with former labour camp prisoners across China also confirmed that the system has been disbanded and that they had not been placed in any other type of detention.

The Communist party has promised since 2007 to end "re-education through labour", a relic of Chairman Mao's era which allowed the police to imprison offenders – including political and religious dissidents – for up to four years without trial, often forcing them to slave in mines and factories, or on farms.

The labour camp system was criticised as an "urgent human rights concern" by the United Nations in 2009.

However, for years there appeared scant progress and the future of the camps was kept a tight secret.

Human rights campaigners expressed concern that the camps might survive under a different name, or that prisoners would be moved to other facilities such as mental hospitals or secret jails.

At the start of 2013, there were roughly 160,000 people in labour camps, according to Human Rights Watch.

An official at Beijing's Labour Camp Bureau, who only named himself as Mr Zhang, insisted that a new government vote at the end of December had proven decisive, and that all prisoners had now been released and allowed to return home.

"I can be very sure there is no one left inside," he said. However, he declined to allow access to any of the camps and would not say how many there were in Beijing or in total.

Asked how many people were released, he said: "Sorry I can't tell you, there are some relevant regulations to follow."

Several dissidents who served time in labour camps confirmed that they had been abruptly released over the past year, had been allowed to return home, and have not been the focus of any other police restrictions.

Jiang Chengfen, a 40-year-old farmer from Sichuan who served a year in a labour camp for criticising the government, said she had been released abruptly without finishing her sentence.

"They did not tell me I was being released, just to go downstairs because someone had come to see me. It was my husband. They had brought him but also not told him I was being released. I had to change my clothes and they pushed me out," she said. "I was quite puzzled".

All of Beijing's recorded labour camps were in Daxing, a dusty grey suburb roughly 50 minutes by car from the city centre.

Satellite photographs show the scale of the complexes, some of which had as many as 30 different blocks within their high concrete walls. Many of the labour camps were placed in "prison districts", next to high-security jails.

Officials at the camps in Daxing declined to allow any access to their respective facilities, but claimed they were now vacant.

"We are still working, but there is not much to do," said one official at the Xinhe labour camp, who declined to give his name because he did not have permission to speak to the media. "We cannot let you inside though, it is still top secret," he added.

At the Daxing Women's Labour Camp, a policeman said staff were awaiting orders. "The government is still deciding what to do with the facility now," he added. A deliveryman outside the gates said he had made regular drop-offs at the site but that it was now empty.

Guo Qinghua, 46, used to clean the lavatories at the offices of the Standing Committee of the Beijing People's Congress before an argument over her pay landed her in the Daxing Women's Labour Camp.

Behind the high concrete walls, she said, were three pink dormitory buildings, two for normal prisoners and one for members of the Falun Gong movement, drug addicts and violent inmates.

"At its peak, there were around 700 detainees," she said. "There was a cattle farm in the camp, a library and a greenhouse. There was also a music room with traditional Chinese instruments, a yoga room and a room like a gym, although those were only for show because they were always closed."

Ms Guo said she had been released last May and not placed under any other type of restriction.

Ma Liangfu, a 54-year-old man in Inner Mongolia, was sent to a labour camp for trying to prosecute the sons of some local politicians who blinded him in one eye when he intervened to stop them raping a girl.

He said he was the last remaining prisoner in the Tumuji camp before it was shut down at the end of December. "The inmates were all thieves, pimps or people who had got into fights," he said. "The police beat up inmates all the time. But by October 1 last year, everyone was released, apart from me and the drug addicts.

"At 3am on December 22, the police drove me to the train station and one of them went on the train with me all the way home. All the labour camps in Inner Mongolia are now empty. The labour camp has now been turned into a drug rehabilitation centre".

In Daxing, the huge Tiantanghe labour camp has also been turned into a drug rehabilitation centre, an official at the site confirmed.

Meanwhile, the Tuanhe labour camp has become a second cell block for Daxing prison. "We are in the process of transition," said a policeman, as workers built a new bridge to the site.

Some campaigners worry that "drug rehabilitation centres" would be a prison by a different name for large population of drug addicts inside the old labour camps.

Some prostitutes, meanwhile, are now being sent to "custody and education", another detention system that is administered by the police outside of the courts.

The biggest replacement for the labour camp system appears to be court-mandated "community correction", which does not involve detention but obliges offenders to report regularly to a drop-in centre and for their communications to be monitored.

"From a legislative point of view, the labour camp system has been abolished," said Li Fangping, a leading human rights lawyer. "But we need to worry about whether black prisons and mental wards will be used to detain protesters."

"As for what happens to the facilities, it is difficult to tell. We need to pay attention though. In Jixi, Heilongjiang, the camp is now a 'legal education base' which is used for Falun Gong disciples and underground Christians."
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Re: China Watch

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:48 am

Now if only they would conform to your global warming religion and let their population warm themselves with solar panels, you can give a little pip pip hooray... I hope you aren't holding your breath...
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Re: China Watch

Post by Super Nova » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:42 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:Now if only they would conform to your global warming religion and let their population warm themselves with solar panels, you can give a little pip pip hooray... I hope you aren't holding your breath...
:rofl

If we don't get countries like China to join the rest of humanity in to taking some effective action we will all be in trouble. Dealing with China's GHG emissions is critical. Why should other countries take action if the biggest polluter doesn't.

I will not hold my breath. you are right again. The world may need to though.

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Re: China Watch

Post by DaS Energy » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:52 am

China's current production of 10KW ground heat CO2 turbine is 100,000 per year. Ground heat electricity provides heat when solar flops don't. China wont be scammed like Australia has!

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Re: China Watch

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:45 am

China smog is increasingly seen in the skies of Japan ...

The food supply is so toxic that the farmers themselves don't eat it. The wealthy not only insist on Japanese imported food but even Japanese nappies - such is the lack of trust among the Chinese of their own food and products.

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Re: China Watch

Post by mantra » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:53 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:China smog is increasingly seen in the skies of Japan ...

The food supply is so toxic that the farmers themselves don't eat it. The wealthy not only insist on Japanese imported food but even Japanese nappies - such is the lack of trust among the Chinese of their own food and products.
I would think Japan would be the last place they would want to access their food supplies from.

China won't eat their own food, yet our PM is going to sign us up to an FTA with them where we'll have to eat it.

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Re: China Watch

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:20 pm

Japanese food and goods are seen as luxuries by wealthier Chinese ...

Soon Chinese processed chicken will be eaten unknowingly by Americans. AUS will be sharing in this deliciousness.

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Re: China Watch

Post by DaS Energy » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:28 pm

CHINA, 100,000 per year 10KW CO2 ground heat electric generators.
TARONG QLD, 240 tonne Carbon per hour per 350 megawatts. 1.4 Kilo per 1 Kilowatt.
CHINA expediential Carbon reduction, 10KW14 Kilo Carbon per hour, 122640 Kilo per year. Total saving first year 12,264,000,000 Kilo. 4 times second year, 8 times third year etc.

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Re: China Watch

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:18 am

Counterfeit Japanese nappies are a real problem in China - demand out strips supply and those clever Chinese take advantage of that.

Protesters are asking the US Congress and the Obama administration not to allow Chinese processed chicken in American schools. I will be surprised if corporate interests do not win. You have to wonder about a country that thinks so little of its own citizens, much less its children.

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Re: China Watch

Post by Chard » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:20 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote: Protesters are asking the US Congress and the Obama administration not to allow Chinese processed chicken in American schools. I will be surprised if corporate interests do not win. You have to wonder about a country that thinks so little of its own citizens, much less its children.
We already tasked the FDA to scrutinize the he'll out of Chinese processed chicken products. This is on top of Beijing cracking down hard on companies that produce tainted food products (by crackdown I mean they're trying and executing company executives). China desperately wants to export their own native chicken and pork products, and they know that the first sign of any contamination with processed products will effectively kill their entire food export market.
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