Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:13 am

Yes, because vowing to stop the boatloads on refugees Howard let in was totally not part of Abott's platform at all?
What.
The.
Fuck?

Psssst You do know the difference between immigration and economic illegal immigration disguised as asylum seeking?
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by Chard » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:03 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:
Yes, because vowing to stop the boatloads on refugees Howard let in was totally not part of Abott's platform at all?
What.
The.
Fuck?

Psssst You do know the difference between immigration and economic illegal immigration disguised as asylum seeking?


Yes, and in context of this thread it readily apparent that we're talking about illegal immigration.

Asylum is a form of legal immigration, so we're not talking about illegal immigration specifically, but how many of these asylum seekers come in through legal channels and how many say "but I'm a refugee" when they get caught by Aussie law enforcement? Granting asylum to those who formally apply for it is a long standing geopolitical convention with roots in treaty law, so denying those that seek asylum legally is something Abbott cannot do without putting Australia in one hell of a bind with your allies. So either he's clearly talking about stopping those that seek to enter Australia through non-legal means or he's taking the piss and this story was meant purely for internal consumption in Australia.
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by DaS Energy » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:49 pm

God you must rub it sore.
"Asylum is a form of legal immigration" Asylum is a place of refuge till the threat passes, immigration is moving permanently to another country."

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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:53 pm

Chard wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:
Yes, because vowing to stop the boatloads on refugees Howard let in was totally not part of Abott's platform at all?
What.
The.
Fuck?

Psssst You do know the difference between immigration and economic illegal immigration disguised as asylum seeking?


Yes, and in context of this thread it readily apparent that we're talking about illegal immigration.

Asylum is a form of legal immigration, so we're not talking about illegal immigration specifically, but how many of these asylum seekers come in through legal channels and how many say "but I'm a refugee" when they get caught by Aussie law enforcement? Granting asylum to those who formally apply for it is a long standing geopolitical convention with roots in treaty law, so denying those that seek asylum legally is something Abbott cannot do without putting Australia in one hell of a bind with your allies. So either he's clearly talking about stopping those that seek to enter Australia through non-legal means or he's taking the piss and this story was meant purely for internal consumption in Australia.
Yes, because vowing to stop the boatloads on refugees Howard let in
You should stop yourself when you don't have a clue, just a helpful hint.
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by Rorschach » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:39 pm

Chard wrote:
Rorschach wrote:
Chard wrote:Abbot's pretty much always has had an anti-immigration stance as part of his political platform. Not seeing why this is even remotely newsworthy.
No he hasn't Chard like to try again? :rofl :rofl :rofl
Yes, because vowing to stop the boatloads on refugees Howard let in was totally not part of Abott's platform at all?

Great, now I can add your prime minister to the long list of things Australian I know more about than a native Australian does. Seriously, take out a loan and get a fucking education, son.
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by DaS Energy » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:23 pm

Nah, necks still poking out!

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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by Chard » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:15 am

You guys seriously have no goddamn idea of your own political history, do you?
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:09 am

Are you fucking blind as well as stupid?

I have tried to subtlety point out where you have fucked up twice now without rubbing your flat fucking nose in it and you still haven't acknowledged it.

Do I have to hand you a fucking banana to get you to push the right button or what?
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:08 am

Looks like the leftards are wrong again.

The hand wringers manual has been telling them that Abbott can't turn back the boats. Kevin Rudd said that it could lead to confrontation. Bedwetters everywhere have been saying he can't stop the boats.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 30isy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just think how many lives and money could have been saved without letting 50k new labor voters in.

At every new election, the failure of the GALP should be thrust into voters minds, because the rest of the world of country shoppers knows a leftwing govt = free meal ticket at taxpayers expense. Fuck you leftwing c unts.
When asked why the government did not announce if boats have been turned back to Indonesia, the Prime Minister replied: ''If boats were coming at the rate of 50,000 illegal arrivals a year, which was the case is July and if now they're hardly coming at all, obviously some things have changed.''Mr Abbott's comments also come after the head of Indonesia's military said he had reached a private agreement with the Australian Defence Force to accept boat turn-backs as a way to defuse the diplomatic row over the policy.
General Moeldoko said late on Tuesday that boat turn-backs by Australia were ''justifiable'' as he had spoken to Australia's military commander on the issue - apparently referring to Chief of the Defence Force General David Hurley.
''He told me that Indonesia should understand if Australia drove back undocumented migrants attempting to enter the country using Indonesian boats or if any Indonesians were found aboard,'' General Moeldoko reportedly said. ''I have agreed. Therefore, we don't need to feel offended.''
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Re: Indonseia has Abbott by the balls.

Post by DaS Energy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:19 pm

CURIOUS! " the head of Indonesia's military said he had reached a private agreement with the Australian Defence Force to accept boat turn-backs as a way to defuse the diplomatic row over the policy." PRIVATE AGREEMENT between the head of Military Indonesia and Defence Force Australia. Its either a deceit or a Court Martial. Private Agreement between Australia and Indonesia's Head of Military. One would expect money to change hands for that event!

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