Fraudband

[IQS.RLOW]

So we should implement the coalitions plans, save the $15bn... invest further post 2020 then address the next steps when there is money in the bank.

That makes sense.

Spending money that is not there is vandalism.... not investing. Particularly when it is a big bet and no compelling event to drive it.

Make that at least $20bn now based on the ALPs original costs (which were never accurate anyway) a $5bn blowout just released ...I'd say judging by the ALP record, $94Bn is a conservative estimate...think $120-150Bn if they get the chance to see it through.

[IQS.RLOW]

Monks eHealth lie has been debunked here countless times as a non-existent thought bubble that will amount to sweet fuck all because its garbage dressed up as a use for the NBN other than an entertainment machine for disability pensioners.

Here's another take- mass resignations of doctors who are supposed to be advising on the Great Big New Home Health Help Yourself On Skype Doctor Internet ALP System.

But the waste, the dollars – so depressing. But next we will have some member of the Labor government extolling the virtues of the NBN to enhance the e-health experience. AHAHAH

For a bit of a laugh, I asked my GP whether we could conduct Sykpe consultations and he could email any prescriptions/path orders. I have a blood pressure machine and I told him I could take my own blood pressure. Strangely, he did not seem at all interested.

THE government has been rocked by the mass resignation of doctors advising it on its troubled $1 billion e- health system.

The system barely functions a year after it was launched and this week former AMA president Dr Mukesh Haikerwal and Dr Nathan Pinksier and two other advisers quit in frustration.

Although 690,000 Australians have signed up for an e-health record the Department of Health has admitted only 5427 patient records have been provided by doctors…

Patients claim their e-health records show them using medicines for conditions they don’t even have.

It's just one mess after another, unworkable bullshit announced by morons, championed by idiots and paid for by the taxpayer.

When will the ALP and their supporters finally admit they are wrong, every fucking time?

[Rorschach]

What if the NBN had stayed on track?
August 26, 2013

It would take a crazy politician to tear down a hugely popular project that was on time and budget, writes Tony Brown.

Last week in The Sydney Morning Herald, Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull called for voters to elect a Coalition government in the looming election – no surprise there – but in reading the piece I had one of those 'what if' moments.

"In December 2010 ... Labor released the NBN Co corporate plan. It stated that by June 2013, more than 1.7 million households and businesses would be able to connect to the NBN – and its fibre optic network would have 511,000 users," Turnbull wrote.

As we know the critical fiber-to-the-premises (FTTP) portion of the NBN has in fact only passed around 200,000 homes – with about 25 per cent of these not actually able to connect to services – and has only 33,000 subscribers.

We all know the reasons for the failure to meet that original target – the long running Telstra negotiations, the asbestos problems, difficulties with contractors, skills shortages and others – but what if NBN Co. had been able to hit that original plan, where would we be now?

We will never know the answer to that question but it seems likely that Turnbull and the Coalition would be in huge trouble on the NBN and would have little choice but to cave in and broadly support the ALP's version of the network.

It would take a crazy politician indeed – and Turnbull sure isn't crazy – to tear down a hugely popular project that was on time and budget simply because it was not the policy of his party, so Turnbull might have tinkered with but certainly not turned around the project.

For the ALP itself an on-schedule NBN that was hitting its original numbers may also have been something of a game changer in the election, the party would have been able to point to the network as an example of its ability to deliver on big, nation building projects. Yet looking at reality, we know labor has been incapable of delivering anything competently... and you have to deal in reality

Instead – and as unfair as this may seem – a large chunk of the electorate are now convinced that the NBN is just another example of the ALP promising much but not making good on those promises. yep... and they'd be right.

For NBN Co itself, an on-target rollout would have cemented its place as the cornerstone of the fixed broadband market and would have put all doubts about the company's ability to handle such a huge task firmly to rest.

As things stand, even some of the NBN's most passionate advocates are starting to doubt that NBN Co can pull off the job at hand and there have been suggestions that even the likes of Ed Husic – the Prime Minister's parliamentary secretary for broadband – would like to see Telstra brought into the project.

As for Telstra itself, well, an on-schedule rollout would have meant the company netting plenty of cash from NBN Co as subscribers were shifted from copper to fibre, but would also have pretty much sealed its fate as solely a retail service provider rather than network operator in the fixed-broadband market.

As things currently stand Telstra's future remains unclear, there is every chance that under a Coalition government that it might not only play a significant role as a builder – not operator – of the NBN and might also get to keep its HFC (pay TV) network operational for broadband services.

On the broader picture, another 'what if' is what if the government had set NBN Co a more feasible rollout timetable, one which it had a much better chance of successfully delivering? Which is what I have advocated from the very start. For numerous reasons cost and technology being the main 2.

Expecting NBN Co – which basically consisted of Mike Quigley and a company logo in mid-2009 – to have connected 1.7 million homes to FTTP and have 500,000 subscribers just four years later was an extraordinarily ambitious target – and not the only one set for the company.

At peak rollout times, NBN Co has been tasked with installing a quite incredible 30,000 FTTP households per week. Even in tiny Singapore OpenNet is only installing around 3000 households per week and Verizon in the US is currently looking at around 6000 per week.

Those extraordinary targets were driven by politics read Rudd... not reality and perhaps the biggest 'what if' of all is what if the NBN had never been allowed to become a partisan political issue in the first place?

Tony Brown is senior analyst with Informa Telecoms & Media.

Good to see a Senior Analyst in Telecommunications and media agreeing with me. eh Monk????

[Super Nova]

I was always going to be a sink hole for money.

A good idea poorly executed is just a waste of money.

[Rorschach]

Malcolm Turnbull model installed with NBN speeds
* by: Chris Griffith
* From: The Australian
* September 03, 2013 12:00AM

MALCOLM Turnbull's fibre-copper hybrid internet solution has achieved 100 megabits per second download speeds in an enormous inner-Sydney apartment block, in what he sees as a vindication of Coalition policy.

Sydney Park Village is a massive complex of 810 apartments across 18 buildings in the city's inner-western suburbs, mainly full of young families and professional types: a demographic tuned in to the virtues of fast internet.

It's a good-news story for the Coalition's communications spokesman, who from opposition today is due to launch the network at the complex, situated about 1km from the electorate of Broadband Minister Anthony Albanese.

Eighteen months ago, the complex set about seeking a faster internet solution, and with the National Broadband Network not due locally until some time between 2015 and 2017, decided on working with a private carrier to install fast internet before the NBN. Eventually, network provider OPENetworks answered the call, making use of an Optus Wholesale fibre corridor running along the street outside.

The fibre has been linked to the complex's internal copper phone network. Last week, the first users came on board and reported download speeds of 93Mbps and upload speeds of 40Mbps.

The VDSL2 being used is not the souped-up vectoring protocol advocated by Mr Turnbull. Nevertheless, its speed is the current benchmark for the NBN although it's well short of the one gigabit or 1000Mbps download speed the NBN Co eventually wants internet service providers to deliver.

Plans offered by internet retailer Internode to Sydney Park Village residents start at $49.95 a month for 30GB at 12Mbps download speeds and 1Mbps upload speeds. For $94.95, residents can get 300GB and speeds of 100Mbps and 40Mbps. There is no installation fee on the 24-month contracts.

OPENetworks managing director Michael Sparksman said installing a VDSL2 internet service to an apartment using copper cost about $200 - half for equipment and half in labour. In contrast, retro-fitting a fibre connection into a building could cost more than $5000 for each apartment.

Peter Hanley, telecoms' technician of Optical Terminations, the contractor that installed the system, said many private fibre rollouts occurred along public thoroughfares in the heady days of the dot-com boom.

He said private last-mile providers, which connect homes and apartments to existing fibre installations, were put out of work after the NBN Co engaged large contractors to perform the work. Small contractors had now received a new lease of life due to people wanting to circumvent the long lead times and delays of the NBN rollout.

If Labor is re-elected, the NBN Co will return to the complex to install fibre in all apartments in the future. The Coalition sees a future in the private sector complementing the NBN's work.

Mr Turnbull said the Coalition was open to co-funding arrangements for the fibre rollout and would look at flexible models. That included wholesalers being able to sell their networks to the NBN Co, provided they met network standards.

He described the Sydney Park Village rollout as "a good illustration in Australia that fibre-to-the-node can deliver those very high speeds".

Mr Albanese's office did not comment, but a US-based broadband publication, Broadband Communities, said competing operators in Australia could build networks that undermined the NBN if it gave customers inferior technology.

"In countries around the world, these so-called competitive overbuilders are always ready to pounce.

"They profit from an incumbent's second-rate performance," said the publication.

Chris Griffith lives in Sydney Park Village and is paying for a broadband connection.

[Jovial_Monk]

The things we could do with the NBN, being done now in Chattanooga, TN:

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[Super Nova]

R.I.P
NBN

Get over it... it's going to change to be delivered more economically.

[Jovial_Monk]

Fuck off, brown nose!

[Super Nova]

Fuck off, brown nose!

Nice.

So this is what excessive drinking does to one's vocabulary.

Have a nice sleep. I hope you don't have too much remorse in the morning.

[Jovial_Monk]

Better ask IQ about excess drinking and codeine abuse.

You agreed you are a brown nose and arse kisser!

Me, I am sad that Australia will not run out fast broadband of any kind and that will cause it to slide down international competitive scales in industry, education, health etc.

The LNP have no intention of running out FTTN—Turncoat’s behavior and inability to answer questions about FTTN aka Fraudband shows it was just faux policy. I mean—expecting Telstra to just hand over its copper? Loony toons stuff! No matter how rotten and inadequate the copper Telstra is going to gouge the government for every cent possible for access to that copper.

We cannot afford the opportunity cost of not running out the NBN. I have some hopes the resurgent Nats, inventors of a 99.9% similar scheme will want the bush to get the NBN. Same for rural Lib MPs. Tone will eventually give in if they do.