Rudd drops the F-word in fiery speech to Holden faithful

[Rorschach]

Kevin Rudd a Sociopath?
Narcissistic?
You bet, said it several times myself.

[Chard]

You should probably stick to commenting on US politics and not making vacuous ill-informed statements about ours.

You want ill informed, bitch?

Do you know who owns Holden, Rorsch? I'll save you the effort of trying to figure out how to use Google and just tell you. Holden is owned by General Motors, an American car manufacturer. Guess who one of Ford's chief rivals is? Ford Motor Company. So you're damn right it's hilarious, especially if you're "informed" enough to actually know these things, which you obviously aren't.

Like I said, shithead, we pretty much fucking own you people and it shows. Now get back to making shitty cars so American executives in Detroit, Michigan can line their pockets off of your labors.

In closing, Rorsch, shut the fuck up already, you useless +1 posting fuckwit. Seriously, you add nothing of value to any discussion and nine out of ten of your posts consist of single sentence bullshit like the above. Hopefully you haven't managed to breed yet, but chances are any offspring of yours is going to be "blessed" by the stupid gene and will probably die playing in oncoming traffic before they hit puberty. Just in case, do the world a favor and kill yourself, there by sparing us all from the effects of your genetics doing any further harm to the human race.

[Rorschach]

Wow thanks for telling me I'd never have known...

Most of my posts consist of a great many words...

Now like I said if you know nothing about our politics, and it appears that is correct, then stfu.

Perhaps you need some anger management classes.

Rudd's mission is to show us that we were wrong
August 19, 2013
Amanda Vanstone
Former Howard government minister

The Prime Minister's addiction to adoration is wearing thin on an underwhelmed electorate.

As we head into the third week of the election campaign, the people I come across in businesses, at the shops and at airports appear underwhelmed.

Our politics and the media in particular can seem a little feral when compared with many other places. Perhaps we secretly like a bit of political biff or, as others prefer to say, ''cut and thrust''. Our five-week campaign normally provides hours of conversation among family and friends each week. Not this time. Two weeks have gone by and not much seems to have changed.

That might be because we seem to have had a three-year election campaign and it is hard for the major parties to make anything sound new and fresh. It is also because, as between the major parties, not much has changed.

Labor provided the chance of a fresh new campaign with the re-election of Kevin Rudd. A reinvented leader just might have generated some spark and enthusiasm for the last legs of the long campaign that minority government has forced us all to endure. That hasn't happened.

We have seen this Rudd movie before. We didn't like it last time and it is proving no more palatable this time. Rudd doesn't look fresh in himself. Rattled and off the mark are the descriptions that I most often hear. yep, What evs kev, the selfie king is bombing big time.

Many of us are fully over having to witness his addiction to adoration. School children always like a visit from someone important and provide endless ''selfie'' opportunities, as do shopping centres. It may bolster Rudd's confidence or ego but it tells us nothing about what he really thinks. That is the Prime Minister's biggest problem. Well actually Kevin is the PM's biggest problem. But where do you start the amputation?

Let me take just three examples.

Tony Abbott has announced that he will make no deals with independents to secure power. It might seem rash to some but in reality it is very sensible. After Julia Gillard's experience of minority government, why on earth would Abbott want to take that on himself or, for that matter, burden us with such a nightmare? yep...

Abbott took the upper hand on this issue. Rudd was left trying to convince us that, even though Labor will preference the Greens, it won't govern with them. Who believes that? The significance of that move should not be underestimated. Rudd is left, yet again, adopting - or seeking to look as though he is adopting - his opponent's position. It leaves people wondering what he and his party really believe.

Second, whatever Rudd says about border protection will not erase from the public's mind the fact that he was opposed to the Howard government's strong policies. I was the Coalition minister for immigration for a fair while and I remember the ridicule and scorn that Labor heaped on our position. Rudd told Australians it would be sensible to undo those policies. Now he says the voting public made him do it. He never takes responsibility for what he said having proven to be a disaster. In any event, today he is following Howard government policies.

And third, the same thing has happened with Rudd's new-found interest in developing the Top End.

When Abbott proposed his policy several months ago, Labor poured scorn on the idea. Now, it seems Labor has had a change of heart and actually likes the idea. No wonder people don't know what Labor believes. yep... Rudd has nothing and so the ALP have nothing... all they present is endless negativity and ad hom all aimed at Abbott. I told them before they need to get rid of that idiot Hawker... right Chard Hawker should go right?

The constant changing of position also serves to confirm what I suspect voters already know. Rudd is about getting power rather than governing well, as opposed to getting power in order to govern well. There is a big difference. Unfortunately it has always been this way since his first election, even with Gillard it was all about holding onto power. Right Chard? Right?

Many Australians believed he was served badly by a treacherous deputy. Nope... Julia was a great deputy. Her perceived disloyalty and sneakiness sat on her shoulder throughout her time as PM. They wanted that wrong put right. Now that has happened. Gillard going provided a boost in voters' minds and thus in the polls for Labor. Unfortunately Gillard proved to be a poor PM right Chard? And became more disliked than Rudd. When he was reinstated he had a bounce which has since turned into a dead cat.

Voters have set things back where they should have been before Rudd was unfairly knifed. Right... remember that Chard? huh? And the electorate has rid itself of a woman people disliked with an uncommon intensity. Now there is nothing left to focus on but the PM and his record.

In an odd kind of way Gillard was one of Rudd's greatest assets, because she was a magnet for voter anger. He could and did masterfully play the victim and cast her as the wicked one. Now the Labor stage is bare but for him. Now the electorate is focusing solely on him.

There's another point. If the electorate felt he was wronged, imagine how he felt. He is out to prove a point and this seems to be his driving force.

The point for Rudd, however, is not just that Gillard and her team wrongly did him over. He knows they were only able to do that because the people were not supporting him in the polls. He knows it was this lack of public support for him that allowed his colleagues to depose him.

Rudd is not only out to show Labor how silly it was to get rid of him. He is out to show us we were wrong. He is after a vengeful triumph. There is nothing more satisfying for narcissists. There's that word again... what do you think Chard is rudd a narcissist? hope you've found this educational.

Amanda Vanstone is a columnist for The Age and was a minister in the Howard government.

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[mellie]

Yes, Chard does seem a little out of sorts today, but this said, I really enjoyed the way he let fly at you Roach.

[Rorschach]

Unfortunately I can't claim being "special"... in that Chard flies off at lots of people. Hence my suggestion re an AMC.

For me it's just...

[Chard]

Now like I said if you know nothing about our politics, and it appears that is correct, then stfu.

Really? Here, I'll sum up your article and the little notations you made in a single sentence.

Rudd's mission is a typical politician.

And to think you spent, what, an hour fiddling with bbcode and thinking up snide comments only to yet again have an American glance at your work and render it down to its common denominator in less time then it took for you to figure out which shade of red you wanted to use for your annotations.

What's amazing to me is you seem somehow surprised that a politician, especially one that's a head of government, grows to crave the spotlight. Even better, you're still surprised that politicians will say whatever they think is what you, the voter, will want to hear. Christ, it's like you're totally new to politics. The crowning hilarity is you think this is at all unique to Australia and that you have to be even remotely knowledgeable about Australian politics in order to understand any of this.

[Rorschach]

Gotta chip on those shoulders there buddy?
Too much testosterone perhaps?

Like I said you have no idea about our politics. Maybe because of the American system of Presidential style elections you just don't have a clue about Australia and our elections.

We've never had anyone like Kevin stand in my lifetime before. He is singled out even in the media as a sociopath and a narcissist. No PM or potential PM has ever behaved like him. KRuddy is a one of... I hope.
Even Hawke who was admittedly full of himself was nowhere near as bad as Rudd.
I note you failed to answer any of my questions Chard. That's ok, I didn't expect you'd be capable anyway.
We don't vote for the PM here, we don't have a Presidential Ticket, we have party leaders elected by a select groups of members of the party. If that party wins the election by winning the majority of seats, and the leader wins his/her seat, then that leader becomes PM.
Unfortunately with the Twitter and Facebook generation of today, where attention span is short and celebrity is more important than substance we are seeing a trend in our media to try and change our polity to imitate that of the US. Hopefully that will never happen.

BTW in case you missed it, even children here know about Ford and General Motors Holden...

[Chard]

Like I said you have no idea about our politics. Maybe because of the American system of Presidential style elections you just don't have a clue about Australia and our elections.

I'm well aware that your backwards country doesn't have direct elections for the PM seat. Just because Rudd isn't running directly for office does not mean that he no longer has a vested interest in garning votes for his party, you fucking idiot.

We've never had anyone like Kevin stand in my lifetime before. He is singled out even in the media as a sociopath and a narcissist.

Welcome to politics. Try not to choke on your disillusionment.

I note you failed to answer any of my questions Chard.

What questions? All you do is make snide one-liners or try to pretend as if your country's politics are somehow unique.

Unfortunately with the Twitter and Facebook generation of today, where attention span is short and celebrity is more important than substance we are seeing a trend in our media to try and change our polity to imitate that of the US. Hopefully that will never happen.

It's already happened, dumbshit.

BTW in case you missed it, even children here know about Ford and General Motors Holden...

Yet you don't get why Rudd saying Ford in a Holden plant is such a devastating insult and quite possibly the funniest thing to come out of Australia since Crocodile Dundee.

[Rorschach]

Chard... you can't hide the CLUELESS in anger...

[mellie]

Yet you don't get why Rudd saying Ford in a Holden plant is such a devastating insult and quite possibly the funniest thing to come out of Australia since Crocodile Dundee.

-Chard

And you do?

Then tell us, tell us "why Rudd saying Ford in a Holden plant is such a devastating insult and quite possibly the funniest thing to come out of Australia since Crocodile Dundee."

....Enlighten us, divine beacon of geopolitical wisdom.