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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:23 pm

Only real political morons, who don't read papers, watch tv or listen to the radio...

but then they probably agreed with her political sentiments anyway

wassup can't answer a question with a statement?
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Super Nova » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:31 pm

Aussie wrote:
Super Nova wrote:Australia, get serious, you can do better than to vote this numpty into a state senate.

I admit she had the courage to raise issues that at the time no polly would discuss. Her time has come and gone. She has a PR problem she could never shake no matter what her convictions are. She will always attract the extremists. Bad PR for Australia if she was to get a seat.

Please explain!!!!!!!!!!!!
So....let's reward the theory that if you throw enough shit, people like SN will take it as gospel..........because she did not have the same PR firepower = media clout. I hope she gets up and somehow manages to return a favour or two sent her way by Abbott.
Get real.

Politics is all about PR and a representatives image.

Internationally she was portrayed as a right wing element coming out of Australia. It is her responsibility to manage her PR, she failed. If she is different to the image portrayed she did a poor job correcting it.

She is not up to the job to play with the adults. She will add no value. Only the media will show interest until she falls into the same traps and be represented as a racist redneck.

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If she has a problem with her PR maybe she should correct her Wiki site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson

Which includes gold statements like.
Autobiography and books published

Not long after her election to Parliament, Pauline Hanson published and launched a book called The Truth. In this book there were claims of Aboriginal cannibalism. There was mention of Aboriginal women eating their babies and tribes cannibalising their members. Hanson had stated to the media that the reason for these claims of cannibalism was to "demonstrate the savagery of Aboriginal society". David Ettridge, the One Nation party director, explained that the book's claims were intended to correct 'misconceptions' about Aboriginal history. These 'misconceptions' were said to be relevant to Aboriginal welfare funds. He also said that "the suggestion that we should be feeling some concern for modern day Aborigines for suffering in the past is balanced a bit by the alternative view of whether you can feel sympathy for people who eat their babies".[83] There were also claims that by 2050 Australia will have a president of Chinese-Indian background called Poona Li Hung and she would be part machine.[84] In 2004, Hanson stated that the book was "written by some other people who actually put my name to it" and that while she held the copyright over The Truth, she was unaware that much of the material was being published under her name.[85]
She an idiot. She let a book be published under her name without reading. She is either a bullshitter or stupid. Either way she is a fool.
Pauline Lee Hanson (née Seccombe; born 27 May 1954[1]) is an Australian politician and former leader of One Nation, a right-wing political party with a populist, conservative and anti-multiculturalism platform. In 2006, she was named by The Bulletin as one of the 100 most influential Australians of all time.[2]

Hanson was a City of Ipswich councillor in the mid-1990s. Following her disendorsement as the Liberal Party candidate for the federal seat of Oxley for the March 1996 election, she was elected as the independent member in that election. Her profile increased dramatically later that year when she gave her maiden parliamentary speech in which she criticised immigration and multiculturalism, government assistance to Aboriginals and political correctness, and called for a return to high-tariff protectionism.

She co-founded One Nation in 1997, but lost her seat at the 1998 election and subsequently has made several unsuccessful attempts to be re-elected to both federal and state parliaments in Australia.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by boxy » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:34 pm

Rorschach wrote:Only real political morons, who don't read papers, watch tv or listen to the radio...
You're an arrogant twat, Roach. Just because people arn't interested in something doesn't make them morons. Some people have better things to do than keep up with which arseclown is trying to suck a vote out of them. Deal with it.
Rorschach wrote:but then they probably agreed with her political sentiments anyway
Na, disinterest doesn't mean they're racist arseholes like you and your ranga girlfriend. Sorry to disappoint.
Rorschach wrote:wassup can't answer a question with a statement?
It was yet another stupid question from you. Ironically, in reply to a question from me.

Wassup, can't answer a qwestion with a statement, widdle woachy? :rofl
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:05 pm

boxy wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Only real political morons, who don't read papers, watch tv or listen to the radio...
You're an arrogant twat, Roach. Just because people arn't interested in something doesn't make them morons. Some people have better things to do than keep up with which arseclown is trying to suck a vote out of them. Deal with it.
Rorschach wrote:but then they probably agreed with her political sentiments anyway
Na, disinterest doesn't mean they're racist arseholes like you and your ranga girlfriend. Sorry to disappoint.
Rorschach wrote:wassup can't answer a question with a statement?
It was yet another stupid question from you. Ironically, in reply to a question from me.

Wassup, can't answer a qwestion with a statement, widdle woachy? :rofl
I'm sorry I think the future and direction that our country is taken in is important. Don't you.
I happen to think people who have little or no interest in politics and their country are morons. I also think they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

You've just proven what a shallow individual you are... Hanson and ON were not racists. There were no more racists in the party than in any other party.

If you believed the media crap... then you are a moron too.

As for you SN sorry but regardless of his motive Aussie is right about this one.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:19 pm

She an idiot. She let a book be published under her name without reading. She is either a bullshitter or stupid. Either way she is a fool.
If you are going to comment on stuff make sure you know what you are talking about first.
Personally I hate going over old shit I've had to correct in the past time and time again because people have no idea what the facts are.

Basically Ettridge knew of the book not Hanson, it was put together by people in SA. It was only a very small part material from Hanson the rest was crap personal bias and an poor scifi related piece written by the morons in SA using Hansons name. Ettridge when he finally found out about it s contents tried to stop it being released. This book was created by people in the Bruce Whiteside Pauline Hanson Support Group not One Nation. THE TRUTH was a lie.

Hanson and ON were not Right Wing in fact they were traditional Labor, check it out and see for yourself.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Super Nova » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:28 pm

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She an idiot. She let a book be published under her name without reading. She is either a bullshitter or stupid. Either way she is a fool.
If you are going to comment on stuff make sure you know what you are talking about first.
Personally I hate going over old shit I've had to correct in the past time and time again because people have no idea what the facts are.

Basically Ettridge knew of the book not Hanson, it was put together by people in SA. It was only a very small part material from Hanson the rest was crap personal bias and an poor scifi related piece written by the morons in SA using Hansons name. Ettridge when he finally found out about it s contents tried to stop it being released. This book was created by people in the Bruce Whiteside Pauline Hanson Support Group not One Nation. THE TRUTH was a lie.

Hanson and ON were not Right Wing in fact they were traditional Labor, check it out and see for yourself.
Sorry, she owns the copyright, she is responsible.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:43 pm

A bit of re-education for SN who believes anti-ON propaganda

You don't have to believe me SN, even though I know what I'm talking about re hanson and the party.

Politics
One Nation - The Old Labor Link

By Peter Lewis

The resurgence in One Nation in the WA election has the pundits again reaching for the tea-leaves. But are they pouring from the wrong pot?

The accepted political wisdom is that One Nation votes are draining votes directly from the Conservatives - and the raw stats appear to back this up, the loss of Coalition votes broadly matches the increases to the Hansonites. But is something more complex occurring? Why for instance, do 40 per cent of One Nation preferences consistently flow Labor's way?

Is it the case that some of the Liberal seepage is actually going to Labor - from the urban elites who are uncomfortable with the Coalition's perceived flirting with One Nation.

These gains are offset by churn within Labor to One Nation. While the middle class Liberals who warmed to Labor in the Whitlam era have remained strong, the traditional blue-collar vote has drifted away from the party that presided over our entry into the world economy.

Look at the policies of the Hansonites and it doesn't seem so far-fetched a proposition. One Nation's core policy settings of a White Australia policy and trade protection bear more than a passing resemblance to the policies that Labor espoused up until the end of the Caldwell era. Labor Council's own research before the last federal election showed a large number of blue-collar middle-aged men were receptive to the One Nation message. If they hadn't run an anti-union IR policy, more of them may have actually.

This would explain why the economic nationalism of the Industrial Left campaigning for 'Fair Trade', sometimes appears spookily close to One Nation. While the industrial Left would never indulge in old-style racial politics, their implicit message is that foreigners are taking our jobs and we should put up the walls to stop them. White Australia, protection and a central wages system, were the pillars up on which industrial Australia was built and remained Labor dogma up to the end of the Caldwell leadership of the ALP.

News this week the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union is planning to fund campaigns against sitting Labor members over the fair trade issue underlines how far Labor policy has drifted from its traditional base. Perhaps this is the natural implication of Labor's drift to the center during the Hawke -Keating years, but viewed over a 40 year sweep it is a significant change. If Old Labor was the party for an optimistic working class, One Nation has emerged as the solution for their more pessimistic contemporaries.

Under this scenario, One Nation support is based around National Party and old Labor voters, while new Labor picks up from the middle class small 'l' liberals who lost their voice in Coalition some time in the eighties. Meanwhile, the current coalition of the rural battlers dominated by the silver spoon Conservatives see their base in free fall.

The One Nation phenomenon, as its name implies, is all about globalisation. Supporters of One Nation are the people from the regions and the demographics that have not benefited from economic change. They cross the old political divide - manufacturing workers standing side by side with the farmers whose protection was the Country party's great political mission.

The major parties ARE the enemies to these people They are now the parties for those who are deriving the benefits - debates around ephemeral issues like the 'Clever Country' and Business Tax is al about winning this 'high' ground, convincing society's winners that each is the more technical skillful practitioner of the art of government. For those disengaged with the process, they all soon begin to look alike.

The tricky political test for the mainstream parties is to take the whole community along for the ride. Keating failed because he was too convinced about the righteousness of the battle, that in the long run all would benefit from an open economy. Howard has failed because, after promising so much to the battlers, he just doesn't speak their language; his notion of government is too small to offer anyone anything.

Beazley is a better bet because he has the heart to wrap the story of economic change into something that that amorphous commodity 'ordinary Australians' can cling onto. He also has the pedigree to understand how the new global order challenges Old Labor orthodoxy, to explain how the things Labor has always held dear: a fair go for all and a decent, caring society will be promoted by engagement with the world, rather than turning our backs to them.

Now Lewis has made some mistakes ie White australia policy, there was none and the anti-union policy, there was none and ON backed the unions quite vocally later on re various issues. But he like other once rabid anti hanson reporters came to regret or recant, except for the very rabid ones too ashamed to admit they were wrong.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:05 pm

Super Nova wrote:
Rorschach wrote:
She an idiot. She let a book be published under her name without reading. She is either a bullshitter or stupid. Either way she is a fool.
If you are going to comment on stuff make sure you know what you are talking about first.
Personally I hate going over old shit I've had to correct in the past time and time again because people have no idea what the facts are.

Basically Ettridge knew of the book not Hanson, it was put together by people in SA. It was only a very small part material from Hanson the rest was crap personal bias and an poor scifi related piece written by the morons in SA using Hansons name. Ettridge when he finally found out about it s contents tried to stop it being released. This book was created by people in the Bruce Whiteside Pauline Hanson Support Group not One Nation. THE TRUTH was a lie.

Hanson and ON were not Right Wing in fact they were traditional Labor, check it out and see for yourself.
Sorry, she owns the copyright, she is responsible.
Really yet she didn't write it or publish it etc, etc, etc...
I suspect that is because it is in her name . yet she never saw a copy before publishing. That is stupidity and naivety and trust.
I just told you what happened.
have you ever read it?
No?
Then you have no idea what you are talking about.
I note as I have that only a few small extracts are related to her or the party.
let me once more try to educate you...

http://www.gwb.com.au/2000/white/00.htm

I note everything I have said is covered and more.

Ps I'm not a Hanson fan I just like people to tell the truth.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:19 pm

Oh and SN from your quote....
In 2004, Hanson stated that the book was "written by some other people who actually put my name to it" and that while she held the copyright over The Truth, she was unaware that much of the material was being published under her name.[85]
Which also backs me up.
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Re: Pauline rises again

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:38 pm

" a redhead you can trust"?? :) seriously?

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