Fraudband

[Rorschach]

People are tripping over themselves to get that bandwidth they obviously need or want. SN lives in the 1980s or something and everything since then has passed him by. Sad, but not my problem.

He is wrong as is amply demonstrated by the rush to connect and choose the higher bandwidths. I assume these people know what they are doing, sad that SN wants to throttle them to what he thinks is all they need.

Is that why the take up rate is so poor then monkey Boy?

What is it? 10%

[Jovial_Monk]

As to choice, you can always use wireless.

Infrastructure competition is nuts! Look at Optus and Telstra both running out HFC down the same streets!

There is only one supplier of ADSL too, Telstra. So keep it open access. Or maybe you want three sets of copper wires down every street, six Sydney Harbor bridges?

[Rorschach]

As to choice, you can always use wireless.

Infrastructure competition is nuts! Look at Optus and Telstra both running out HFC down the same streets!

There is only one supplier of ADSL too, Telstra. So keep it open access. Or maybe you want three sets of copper wires down every street, six Sydney Harbor bridges?

Remind me never to let you be in control of any it or infrastructure project.

[IQS.RLOW]

He couldn't keep a home brew shop running, then complain that wireless sucked because he was using Dodo coz he is a cheap bastard

[Black Orchid]

People are tripping over themselves to get that bandwidth they obviously need or want. SN lives in the 1980s or something and everything since then has passed him by. Sad, but not my problem.

He is wrong as is amply demonstrated by the rush to connect and choose the higher bandwidths. I assume these people know what they are doing, sad that SN wants to throttle them to what he thinks is all they need.

Is that why the take up rate is so poor then monkey Boy?

What is it? 10%

The take up rate is dismal. More like tripping over themselves to avoid it.

[Jovial_Monk]

Great blog by Sortius on Samsung’s “5G” and the UK and German FTTN rollouts, comparing that to Australia and why FTTN won’t work here.

Looking at Deutsche Telekom we can see similar, albeit less stark, contrasts between Australia & Germany: higher population densities, low attenuation copper, & a network that has already had heavy investment over the last decade. Something interesting to note is that when DT deployed their FTTN network to 10 million customers (just 2 million more than the Coalition’s plan intends to connect), they needed to build 330 000 nodes. Yes, that’s 5x the number Turnbull intends in a country where the urban population density is more than double that of Australia. The reason for doing so was to keep loops short enough to support 25Mbps services, as Turnbull wants to do.

And Sortius points out that #Fraudband is designed just to get the Libs over the line 14/9 when it will be forgotten:

So we can see, once we dig deeper in comparing technologies & deployments around the world that using them as a case to support not deploying FTTP we can see that not everything is as simple as cost. There are many hidden costs that don’t seem to have been taken into account by the Coalition in their policy document, which leads me to believe that the policy was cooked up overnight to appease the many detractors of the Coalition’s lack of policy.

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We will become an increasingly uncompetitive country without the NBN, the real NBN.

[Jovial_Monk]

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As I understand it, Steve is not an IT person but takes a keen interest. He recently copped a 2200 word email from a Turnbull staffer for daring to keep raising questions.

Turnbull is either an idiot or knowingly lying. I was at a public meetingcalled by Andrew Southcott and attended by me and 2-300 Lib supporters to listen to Turnbull.

He crapped on a bit then asked for questions—all the questions had to do with the crap state of the copper lines! This meeting would not have been the only meeting he addressed so he knows damn well that the copper would have to be rerun pretty much everywhere so why launch #Fraudband? Pure party political reasons.

[mantra]

We will become an increasingly uncompetitive country without the NBN, the real NBN.

Whether or not this is true -who knows, but it will cost too much to get out of all the contracts we've signed up to. Abbott might impress a few by claiming that he'll do something different, but we are committed now to going down a certain path. What's the point of paying out $30 billion in cancelled contracts, when the savings by cancelling them will only be $20 billion?

[Rorschach]

We will become an increasingly uncompetitive country without the NBN, the real NBN.

Whether or not this is true -who knows, but it will cost too much to get out of all the contracts we've signed up to. Abbott might impress a few by claiming that he'll do something different, but we are committed now to going down a certain path. What's the point of paying out $30 billion in cancelled contracts, when the savings by cancelling them will only be $20 billion?

yet that isn't what they intend to do mantra...

[Jovial_Monk]

It is true. Business competitiveness—obvious. Education, especially at smaller regional schools, boosted—small schools can connect to a bigger school, listen to a lecture or class, then ask questions etc because of the high upload speed.

What about when there is the big overhang of Baby Boomers and half are getting dementia, diabetes, osteoporosis—you want to spend $30Bn building hospitals and nursing homes? Not to mention the cost of running and staffing them? Or use the $30Bn to build a superfast, ubiquitous, reliable network that allows these Boomers to stay in their own homes?

The need for the NBN is crystal clear! It needs to be a FTTH network.