ALP scrap the NBN

[Jovial Monk]

Yeah, better communication will end the isolation and that might help reduce the suicide rate. I see that as one great benefit of the NBN but just one of many.

The copper is rotting in the ground, time to replace it and the best way to replace it is with fiber.

The cost is trivial, less than 1% of government spending for 10 years.

Govt spending is $400Bn roughly speaking, $40Bn for the NBN over 10 years is $4Bn a year, (4/400)*100 = 1%

Very doable.

[Super Nova]

"that might help reduce the suicide rate"

Might, maybe ....... poor justification.

Do-able yes. Value for money... NO

[Jovial Monk]

Ending the city-rural divide, ending the dreadful isolation of the bush are two laudable things to do. I have not said they are why the NBN should be run out.

Basically you are an ignoramus proud of his ignorance and not willing to do some reading because that may upset your comfortable mindset. That makes you a fraud.

The NBN will boost Australia’s GDP, education, health, business, help keep people in touch all of that. Some will use it to view very high quality porn and in doing so subsidise more worthy uses of the NBN.

OK I am out for a couple of hours.

[Super Nova]

Bye. When you come back please present a more compelling reason for this investment otherwise it is a poor investment done for political reasons rather than good ecconmics. Buying country votes is not a good enough reason to waste this money the way they are at the moment. It is too late to change. Time will tell.

[Rorschach]

Seems to me JM thinks the NBN is the cure for all the world's ills.

Perhaps he should run fibre to his brain, that might fix a few problems we have around here.
Or would it just increase the amount of crap we have to deal with? GI-GO

[IQS.RLOW]

I thought I'd already heard all Cuntymonks bullshit re the NBN

He is more fucked in the head than Christine Milne thinking greens can pick up country votes if he thinks country people rate the NBN as anything other than a 3rd rate policy

They are more concerned that the govt is prepared to fly off the wall at green propaganda like live animal exports and stop an industry

[Rorschach]

The copper is rotting in the ground, time to replace it and the best way to replace it is with fiber.

Now that is a load of rubbish.
Most copper I see is overhead for starters.

What is the difference between having a copper network for phones and fibre Monk?
Should be an easy one for you.

[IQS.RLOW]

The only city-rural divide is dickheads like monk vs real people

[Jovial Monk]

Great post on PollBludger about the NBN:

>>Says wireless is all the go and will do the job faster than the NBN

Ask him where he’d put all the towers needed to deliver wireless speeds the equivalent of fibre optic.

Given most communities ark up about the prospect of a simple wind farm, how does your HTV neighbour intend winning community support for all those wireless towers?

I’m coming in here a bit late, but feel I should add: the key phrases words with regard to fibre are symmetric (same download/upload speed), contention-free (doesnt slow down with lots of users) noise-free (distance from exchange isnt an issue) and, when comparing to wireless, perfect reception (ie reception quality is irrelevant).

The biggest factor for massive benefits offered by the NBN is cheap delivery of bi-directional video conferencing.

The goal when discussing the NBN is to ask people to look beyond their own personal, selfish interests and think of the entire country. In particular, consider the massive cost savings for regional areas. This affects everyone, because many utilities, government services and businesses pay big bucks already to deliver regional services. These costs are directly and indirectly borne by everyone, not just the recipients of the services.

Additionally, the massive direct and indirect costs borne by residents (and their employers and families) in regional areas, every time they have to travel to a major city to obtain a service not available in their locality, will be significantly reduced by the NBN once services are delivered over the NBN. Services which can be delivered via video conferencing will revolutionise regional economies, especially for the poor. Cant do that without the NBN.

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[IQS.RLOW]

Do you read anything other than shitty leftwing blogs that highlight your confirmation bias?

You do realize that objectivity is not your usual pastime with inanimate objects?