Is Nauru going to be good enough for the refugees?

[mantra]

I'm sorry... when were they on Nauru or part of the Pacific Solution?

Wasn't Christmas Island part of the Pacific Solution? Get them away from the mainland for processing? Anything after 2001 was part of the Pacific Solution because there were drastic changes made to the legislation. Most of the unlawful detention cases occurred between 2001 and 2006.

There isn't anything directly relating to Nauru now - but the last man left standing in Nauru was a basket case. He would have been amongst those compensated - although looking at some of the cases, they appear to be exaggerated.

[Rorschach]

So, morons, what is different about Nauru/Manus Is now and the failed Pacific Solution?

Morons eh?

Ah the difference is that it is now Labor Policy.
It has been suggested and ok'd by a (LABOR) hand picked EXPERT committee.
It does not however include TPVs and is increasing the intake.
It may fail just due to that.

So in your opinion is Captain Emad a genuine refugee JM?
His family too?

[Rorschach]

Wasn't Christmas Island part of the Pacific Solution? Get them away from the mainland for processing? Anything after 2001 was part of the Pacific Solution because there were drastic changes made to the legislation. Most of the unlawful detention cases occurred between 2001 and 2006.

There isn't anything directly relating to Nauru now - but the last man left standing in Nauru was a basket case. He would have been amongst those compensated - although looking at some of the cases, they appear to be exaggerated.

It seems you don't really read the articles you post mantra.
1/ It doesn't support your claims.
2/ Christmas Island is Australian territory, so no you'd be wrong.
3/ Nauru was run under UN auspices.
4/ He may well have been a basket case b4 he came here.
5/ Most of the cases are probably beat ups the soft touches in government and ambulance chasers are just hopeless and why they want external detention, to stop the ambit claims.
6/ Christmas Island is not in the Pacific.

So where is your proof again?

Oh and please don't bring in red herrings like Solenge and Rau, who have nothing to do with it.

[Black Orchid]

Immigration Department figures show that from July 1 last year to June 30 this year, the Federal Government paid out $2.1 million, excluding legal costs, in compensation to former detainees.

All of those claims relate to pre-2007 incidents, and are for a combination of personal injuries or the unlawful detention of 13 former detainees who each were paid on average about $160,000.

Between June 2008 and June 2010, about 50 former asylum seekers were paid $5.4 million in compensation payouts for injuries they suffered while in detention.

The average payout in that time was $100,000.

TGB managing partner Morry Bailes said detainees were being diagnosed with post-traumatic stress syndrome, major depressive disorder and schizophrenia.

The firm says it is expecting hundreds of new cases to begin flowing through its books in the near future.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nation ... 6456090337" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[mantra]

Thank you Orchid. I heard this on the news, but couldn't find a link.

[Rorschach]

Still doesn't back you up mantra.

Your article talks of Villawood as where most of the compensation claims are coming from..
Not the pacific solution.
Australian based detention centres, not part of the pacific solution.

Also the US? company looking after detainees is also responsible for claims.
Not part of the Pacific Solution.

As for individuals making claims re mental problems I reiterate... they probably already had them. I know I certainly think their attitudes and behaviours are completely suss. In fact I'd go as far as to say most of these middle easteners by our standards are unstable personalities.

Oh and mantra...

ABUSED asylum seekers are being paid an average of $160,000 in compensation, up 60 per cent for each individual in the past two years, Immigration Department figures show.

This dates back for the last 2 years (Black orchids article) that puts all this after the Pacific Solution ceased to exist.

[mantra]

Oh and mantra...

ABUSED asylum seekers are being paid an average of $160,000 in compensation, up 60 per cent for each individual in the past two years, Immigration Department figures show.

This dates back for the last 2 years (Black orchids article) that puts all this after the Pacific Solution ceased to exist.

The article states quite clearly -

Immigration Department figures show that from July 1 last year to June 30 this year, the Federal Government paid out $2.1 million, excluding legal costs, in compensation to former detainees.

All of those claims relate to pre-2007 incidents,

My point was when the Pacific Solution legislation was introduced - it had a flow on effect to those held in Australian detention centres from 2001 to 2006/7. Howard made sure of that.

[Rorschach]

How's that foot... ?

Yes my point was that Rudd ended it when he came to office.

How many people were in pacific solution detention centres when Howard lost office?
Oh that's right
last time... it is not the pacific solution that is costing us millions in compensation.

[mantra]

How's that foot... ?

Yes my point was that Rudd ended it when he came to office.

How many people were in pacific solution detention centres when Howard lost office?
Oh that's right
last time... it is not the pacific solution that is costing us millions in compensation.

If you'd bothered to read my earlier post - I said that sending refugees to Nauru could be cost effective in the long term if the loophole for compensation was closed. Many of those claiming compensation now were locked up during that 5/6 year period when the Pacific Solution became the Coalition's bible.

[Aussie]

Mantra, did you bother to read that the compensation was paid to people against whom ILLEGAL action was taken by the Government? Do you have a problem with that?