No Grand Solar Minimum now

[Jovial Monk]

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Some idiot has spent a lot of (wasted) time talking about a GSM causing a mini ice age. No real information about the state of the sun was ever produced, tiresome catalogue of it gets cold in winter. No mention of it gets bloody hot in summer these days, of course—this crap was only believed in by the most stupid of idiots.

And it was WRONG!

No GSM this solar cycle, no reason the next one would be different.

[Super Nova]

I don't understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that we need to consider that the solar minimum has started "This period has started in the Sun in 2020 and will last until 2053." and we need to consider this when we think about global warming. if this is ,minimum drops the northern hemisphere by up to 1 degree C then what will happen when the minimum is over.

I reference the following report; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7575229/

Conclusions
In this editorial, I have demonstrated that the recent progress with understanding a role of the solar background magnetic field in defining solar activity and with quantifying the observed magnitudes of magnetic field at different times allowed us to enable reliable long-term prediction of solar activity on a millennium timescale. This approach revealed a presence of not only 11-year solar cycles but also of grand solar cycles with duration of 350–400 years. We demonstrated that these grand cycles are formed by the interferences of two magnetic waves with close but not equal frequencies produced by the double solar dynamo action at different depths of the solar interior. These grand cycles are always separated by grand solar minima of Maunder minimum type, which regularly occurred in the past forming well-known Maunder, Wolf, Oort, Homeric, and other grand minima.

During these grand solar minima, there is a significant reduction of solar magnetic field and solar irradiance, which impose the reduction of terrestrial temperatures derived for these periods from the analysis of terrestrial biomass during the past 12,000 or more years. The most recent grand solar minimum occurred during Maunder Minimum (1645–1710), which led to reduction of solar irradiance by 0.22% from the modern one and a decrease of the average terrestrial temperature by 1.0–1.5°C.

This discovery of double dynamo action in the Sun brought us a timely warning about the upcoming grand solar minimum 1, when solar magnetic field and its magnetic activity will be reduced by 70%. This period has started in the Sun in 2020 and will last until 2053. During this modern grand minimum, one would expect to see a reduction of the average terrestrial temperature by up to 1.0°C, especially, during the periods of solar minima between the cycles 25–26 and 26–27, e.g. in the decade 2031–2043.

The reduction of a terrestrial temperature during the next 30 years can have important implications for different parts of the planet on growing vegetation, agriculture, food supplies, and heating needs in both Northern and Southern hemispheres. This global cooling during the upcoming grand solar minimum 1 (2020–2053) can offset for three decades any signs of global warming and would require inter-government efforts to tackle problems with heat and food supplies for the whole population of the Earth.

[Jovial Monk]

That sounds like the garbage from Zharkova.

The sun is not entering or in a GSM right now.

[Super Nova]

I thought we are in a solar minimum now.

[Jovial Monk]

Well, the 20th century Solar Maximum ended in the 1980s so we are in a solar minimum I suppose. But not a GRAND solar minimum.

Also there is a minimum about every 11 years as the sun moves from once cycle to the next. We are out of that minimum.

[Bobby]

I don't understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that we need to consider that the solar minimum has started "This period has started in the Sun in 2020 and will last until 2053." and we need to consider this when we think about global warming. if this is ,minimum drops the northern hemisphere by up to 1 degree C then what will happen when the minimum is over.

I reference the following report; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7575229/

Conclusions
In this editorial, I have demonstrated that the recent progress with understanding a role of the solar background magnetic field in defining solar activity and with quantifying the observed magnitudes of magnetic field at different times allowed us to enable reliable long-term prediction of solar activity on a millennium timescale. This approach revealed a presence of not only 11-year solar cycles but also of grand solar cycles with duration of 350–400 years. We demonstrated that these grand cycles are formed by the interferences of two magnetic waves with close but not equal frequencies produced by the double solar dynamo action at different depths of the solar interior. These grand cycles are always separated by grand solar minima of Maunder minimum type, which regularly occurred in the past forming well-known Maunder, Wolf, Oort, Homeric, and other grand minima.

During these grand solar minima, there is a significant reduction of solar magnetic field and solar irradiance, which impose the reduction of terrestrial temperatures derived for these periods from the analysis of terrestrial biomass during the past 12,000 or more years. The most recent grand solar minimum occurred during Maunder Minimum (1645–1710), which led to reduction of solar irradiance by 0.22% from the modern one and a decrease of the average terrestrial temperature by 1.0–1.5°C.

This discovery of double dynamo action in the Sun brought us a timely warning about the upcoming grand solar minimum 1, when solar magnetic field and its magnetic activity will be reduced by 70%. This period has started in the Sun in 2020 and will last until 2053. During this modern grand minimum, one would expect to see a reduction of the average terrestrial temperature by up to 1.0°C, especially, during the periods of solar minima between the cycles 25–26 and 26–27, e.g. in the decade 2031–2043.

The reduction of a terrestrial temperature during the next 30 years can have important implications for different parts of the planet on growing vegetation, agriculture, food supplies, and heating needs in both Northern and Southern hemispheres. This global cooling during the upcoming grand solar minimum 1 (2020–2053) can offset for three decades any signs of global warming and would require inter-government efforts to tackle problems with heat and food supplies for the whole population of the Earth.

Thanks SN,
that confirms what David DuByne has been saying.
I'll post it at my MRB.

cheers
Bobby

[Jovial Monk]

The above is basically Zharkova’s work. Her solar model could not hindcast known previous GSMs. Her paper was withdrawn because it was full of errors. Just the sort of paper a simpleton like Booby would believe.

[Jovial Monk]

I see the fuckwit who voted to remove my Mod position believes the above article. That is because he has sawdust in his head not brains: Zharkova’s paper was retracted because it was totally wrong!

[UnSubRocky]

Quite the time when to talk about grand solar minimums when we are in the last phase of winter.

[lisa jones]

I see the fuckwit who voted to remove my Mod position believes the above article. That is because he has sawdust in his head not brains: Zharkova’s paper was retracted because it was totally wrong!

We all voted for you to be pissed off as Mod. You must have missed the memo Mad Monk. Either that or you were drunk again.

The articles in this topic which don't support your claims must be giving your 80 yr old head a migraine. Tough! Deal with it Mong!