To be biased is correct

[Nicole]

So Brian, lets return to the original analogy:

All human beings stereotype. It's innate. So if for example I walk past an alleyway and see two little old ladies down there, in twin sets and pearls, there is no need to "keep alert and quiet" because in an instance I stereotype little old ladies as no threat. However, if I walk past that same alleyway, and see 2 hells angel's bikies in leathers, I keep "alert and quiet", because I immediately stereotype them as a threat?

Do you react to the two little old ladies in the same way you react to the Hell's Angel's, Brian?

As I have said, I have known Hells Angels. They didn't look like the stereotypical Hells Angels. If I saw anybody lurking down a dark alley, I would be wary of them, "Nicole". Why do you assume I am sexist and believe little old ladies are benign?

You're lying Brian and everybody here can see it. You would respond differently to Hell's Angel's or Nazi's as opposed to little old ladies in an alleyway because people stereotype, and that's what kicks in our fight/flight mode which is an inbuilt, innate safety system. Are you telling me you don't stereotype One Nation supporters as uneducated, inarticulate, stupid etc? Really, you kill me Brian.

Let's try this another way, with a different hypothetical.

You work in security at Perth airport. A Boeing 747 is flying from Perth to Denpasar. There are two more passengers to be wanded through onto the plane. You know that one of them has a bomb but you don't know which one. One of them is a tinted 22 year old Arabic looking male with a beard. The other is a 72 year old, well dressed woman who presents like a doctor's wife.

You can only wand one of them. Which one do you wand?

[brian ross]

Both of them. And if you claim I don't have time - tough. I make time, "Nicole".

I remember I was picking my wife up from the airport one morning when there was a bloke in front of me who was drawn aside to be wanded. He looked resigned, "OK, wand me, you lot always wand me!" He looked like a normal, young, Muslim male. He had two children with him. Did they find any bombs? Nope. How about the other people who were ignored while he was wanded, were they carrying any bombs? How would the security types know? They didn't wand them.

And that is the danger in people stereotyping, "Nicole". I could have been carrying a bomb, the lady beside me could have been carrying a bomb. Anyone can be a Terrorist. Anyone and simply picking on the "obvious people" merely shows the inherent racism in stereotyping people.

[Black Orchid]

Of course anyone can be a terrorist Brian but most of the bombs being let off all around the western world aren't strapped to white middle aged women.

Even if the occasional white middle aged woman did strap a bomb to herself it would be an abnormal variation and not the norm.

Hence statistical stereotyping will always come into play.

[Gordon]

Of course anyone can be a terrorist Brian but most of the bombs being let off all around the western world aren't strapped to white middle aged women.

Even if the occasional white middle aged woman did strap a bomb to herself it would be an abnormal variation and not the norm.

Hence statistical stereotyping will always come into play.

Exactly. If I was the young muslim male who's always getting checked at the airport I'd direct my anger at the Muslim extremists who've made it necessary to profile muslims, not the people protecting themselves

[sprintcyclist]

Racism is just as natural as biased.

Of course a muslim is going to be more likely to be a terrorist than a botanist.

[brian ross]

Racism is not natural. It is a learnt response, a fear of the "other". Only those thinking otherwise proclaim it to be "natural". People learn it from their parents.

[Black Orchid]

Racism is not always a fear nor learned from the parents. Sometimes resentment is mistaken for racism.

[Gordon]

Racism is not natural. It is a learnt response, a fear of the "other". Only those thinking otherwise proclaim it to be "natural". People learn it from their parents.

Wrong, and idiotically so.

Racism is a tribal defense mechanism against strangers with unknown pathogens.

Racism against muslims is to protection against people with the allah virus who would kill you if you so much as fart in Mohameds general direction.

[brian ross]

Your evidence for that is, Gordon?

Got any? Any at all?

Pathogens are a relatively modern invention. Racism is a learnt response, created by Anthropologists who created the entire modern concept of "race" to justify European imperialism over other "lesser" "races". Genetically, we are all members of the only race, the Human one. It is what allows all humans to interbreed. We are all one species Homo Sapiens Sapien - "Wise humans", although reading this sort of bullshit on the web continually makes me wonder sometimes just how wise some of us are.

[BigP]

Your evidence for that is, Gordon?

Got any? Any at all?

Pathogens are a relatively modern invention. Racism is a learnt response, created by Anthropologists who created the entire modern concept of "race" to justify European imperialism over other "lesser" "races". Genetically, we are all members of the only race, the Human one. It is what allows all humans to interbreed. We are all one species Homo Sapiens Sapien - "Wise humans", although reading this sort of bullshit on the web continually makes me wonder sometimes just how wise some of us are.

Dont buy it Brian, Racism is a natural defencive responce to protecting ones family and territory ,,