NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Sciences, Environmental/Climate issues, Academia and Technical interests
User avatar
Bobby
Posts: 18266
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:09 pm

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by Bobby » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:30 pm

freediver wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:26 pm
Or fall off.
Microbes would not survive the harshness of space or re-entry -
they would only survive inside a rock if they were not heated up.

User avatar
freediver
Posts: 3487
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:42 pm
Contact:

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by freediver » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:36 pm

How do they get inside the rock?

User avatar
Super Nova
Posts: 11787
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:49 am
Location: Overseas

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by Super Nova » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:58 pm

BigP wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:36 pm
Bobby wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:29 pm
BigP wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:24 pm

Those microbes get toasted during entry into our atmosphere
Not all the microbes.
Yes, every last one of them , during entry or impact

NO


"The heat doesnt move very quickly in the meteorite," Kirschvink explained. "As the surface of the meteorite heats up, the melting surface is blown away, so it carries the hot material away from the meteorite." According to Kirschvink, the extreme heat never reaches more than a few millimeters into the rock. His group concluded from their measurements that the temperature at ALH84001's core never exceeded 40 degrees Celsius, or about 100 degrees Fahrenheit, en route from the Red Planet.
If heat didn't pose a threat to life, what of the voyage through space? According to Weiss, the European Space Agency conducted tests with bacteria to see how long they would survive in a near vacuum, exposed to subzero temperatures and ultraviolet radiation in space. "After six years they were still alive," Weiss said. Only one in every 10 million meteorites makes the trip from Mars to Earth anywhere near that quickly; most spend millions of years in space. "About a billion tons of Martian rocks have been transferred [to Earth] throughout the history of the planet," Weiss notes. And "once every million years there was a meteorite impact on Mars that was large enough to free enough mass to transport life to Earth." There is no evidence that life-forms from Mars have reached Earth, Weiss said but added: "If there were microorganisms on Mars, then it is probable that they would have made it here."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... th-in-a-m/
Always remember what you post, send or do on the internet is not private and you are responsible.

User avatar
Bobby
Posts: 18266
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:09 pm

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by Bobby » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:27 pm

freediver wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:36 pm
How do they get inside the rock?
The rocks are porous.
Microbes are so tiny that they can move through a porous rock.

User avatar
BigP
Posts: 4970
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:56 pm

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by BigP » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:25 am

freediver wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:35 pm
BigP wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:21 pm
freediver wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:44 pm
Done any experiments to test this theory?

Dont push your credabilty FD,,
this is from the Nasa site


""About once a year, an automobile-sized asteroid hits Earth's atmosphere, creates an impressive fireball, and burns up before reaching the surface.''


And?

What about all the microbe size pieces that fall of it on the way down? A bit less energy to dissipate do you think?
If you feel you are better equiped than NASA to pass comment ,then you have my bleesing

User avatar
freediver
Posts: 3487
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:42 pm
Contact:

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by freediver » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:29 am

Bobby wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:27 pm
freediver wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:36 pm
How do they get inside the rock?
The rocks are porous.
Microbes are so tiny that they can move through a porous rock.
So porous rocks protect the microbes from outer space?

Perhaps we should save some money by giving our astronauts sponges to wear.

User avatar
BigP
Posts: 4970
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:56 pm

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by BigP » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:31 am

Super Nova wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:58 pm
BigP wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:36 pm
Bobby wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:29 pm
BigP wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:24 pm

Those microbes get toasted during entry into our atmosphere
Not all the microbes.
Yes, every last one of them , during entry or impact

NO


"The heat doesnt move very quickly in the meteorite," Kirschvink explained. "As the surface of the meteorite heats up, the melting surface is blown away, so it carries the hot material away from the meteorite." According to Kirschvink, the extreme heat never reaches more than a few millimeters into the rock. His group concluded from their measurements that the temperature at ALH84001's core never exceeded 40 degrees Celsius, or about 100 degrees Fahrenheit, en route from the Red Planet.
If heat didn't pose a threat to life, what of the voyage through space? According to Weiss, the European Space Agency conducted tests with bacteria to see how long they would survive in a near vacuum, exposed to subzero temperatures and ultraviolet radiation in space. "After six years they were still alive," Weiss said. Only one in every 10 million meteorites makes the trip from Mars to Earth anywhere near that quickly; most spend millions of years in space. "About a billion tons of Martian rocks have been transferred [to Earth] throughout the history of the planet," Weiss notes. And "once every million years there was a meteorite impact on Mars that was large enough to free enough mass to transport life to Earth." There is no evidence that life-forms from Mars have reached Earth, Weiss said but added: "If there were microorganisms on Mars, then it is probable that they would have made it here."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... th-in-a-m/
And even if there were microbes on the lumps of debris ,surving the 100,000 year trip is their next challange , Maybe bob would have them packing a picnic for the journey lol

User avatar
freediver
Posts: 3487
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:42 pm
Contact:

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by freediver » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:46 am

Do you know how long they can remain dormant for?

Space is the perfect freeze drier.

User avatar
BigP
Posts: 4970
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:56 pm

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by BigP » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am

freediver wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:46 am
Do you know how long they can remain dormant for?

Space is the perfect freeze drier.
Valid point for spores yeasts etc,

User avatar
freediver
Posts: 3487
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:42 pm
Contact:

Re: NASA major announcement on Thursday about life on the red planet

Post by freediver » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:10 am

We are talking about much simpler organisms - small molecular robots. Life seeds.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests