Science Updates

[annielaurie]

How do we know what goes on behind closed doors in China or India?

We don't know what percentage of the population has gay tendencies in those countries, but whoever they are they would keep it well out of sight.

You wouldn't be caught dead over there acting gay in public.

[Rorschach]

Tsk tsk tsk Annie... since when have China denied homosexuality, its even in their movies, as for India it's hardly a closed society.

Now you are making excuses.
You obviously believe people are born gay Annie. I don't.
Where you seem to have no give and take in your opinion about it, I do.

[Super Nova]

Where you seem to have no give and take in your opinion about it, I do.

[Super Nova]

Gay animals, there are a lot of the buggers out there. The individuals must all choose to be gay. Good to see free will is extended to the whole animal kingdom.

mammals
Bison[16]
Brown Bear[17]
Brown Rat[18]
Caribou[19]
Cat (domestic)[20]
Cattle (domestic)[21]
Chimpanzee[22][23][24][25]
Common Dolphin[26]
Common Marmoset[27]
Dog[28]
Elephant[29]
Fox[30]
Giraffe[31][3][32]
Goat[16]
Horse (domestic)[33]
Human[34][35][36]
Koala[37]
Lion[34]
Orca[26]
Raccoon[38]


Birds
Barn Owl[39]
Chicken[40]
Common Gull[41]
Emu[42]
King Penguin[43]
Mallard[44]
Raven[45]
Seagull[46]

Fish

Bluegill Sunfish[49]
Char[47]
Grayling[47]
European Bitterling[50]
Green swordtail[50]
Guiana leaffish[51]
Houting Whitefish[47]
Jewel Fish[52]
Least Darter (Microperca punctulata)[50]
Mouthbreeding Fish sp.[49]
Salmon spp.[53]
Southern platyfish[50]
Ten-spined stickleback[50]
Three-spined stickleback[50]

Reptiles

Anole sp.[54]
Bearded Dragon[55]
Broad-headed Skink[50]
Checkered Whiptail Lizard[55]
Chihuahuan Spotted Whiptail Lizard[55]
Common Ameiva[55]
Common Garter Snake[50]
Cuban Green Anole[54]
Desert Grassland Whiptail Lizard[55]
Desert Tortoise[56]
Fence Lizard[55]
Five-lined Skink[disambiguation needed][50]
Gopher (Pine) Snake[49]
Green Anole[54]
Inagua Curlytail Lizard[55]
Jamaican Giant Anole[54]
Laredo Striped Whiptail Lizard[55]
Largehead Anole[54]
Mourning Gecko[57]
Plateau Striped Whiptail Lizard[55]
Red Diamond Rattlesnake[50]
Red-tailed Skink[50]
Side-blotched Lizard[55]
Speckled Rattlesnake[50]
Water Moccasin[50]
Western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis)[50]
Western Banded Gecko[57]
Whiptail Lizard spp.[55]
Wood Turtle[54]

Amphibians
Appalachian Woodland Salamander[58]
Black-spotted Frog[59]
Mountain Dusky Salamander[58]
Tengger Desert Toad[54]

Insects

Alfalfa Weevil[60]
Australian Parasitic Wasp sp.[60]
Bean Weevil sp.[60]
Bedbug and other Bug spp.[61][62]
Blister Beetle spp.[63]
Blowfly[63]
Broadwinged Damselfly sp.[64]
Cabbage (Small) White (Butterfly)[65]
Checkerspot Butterfly[65]
Club-tailed Dragonfly spp.[66]
Cockroach spp.[67]
Common Skimmer Dragonfly spp.[66]
Creeping Water Bug sp.[68]
Cutworm[69]
Digger Bee[70]
Dragonfly spp.[66]
Eastern Giant Ichneumon Wasp[60]
Eucalyptus Longhorned Borer[68]
Field Cricket sp.[71]
Flour Beetle[72]
Fruit Fly spp.[73]
Glasswing Butterfly[65]
Grape Berry Moth[74]
Grape Borer[68]
Green Lacewing[75]
Hen Flea[75]
House Fly[76]
Ichneumon wasp sp.[60]
Japanese Scarab Beetle[77]
Larch Bud Moth[74]
Large Milkweed Bug[62]
Large White[62]
Long-legged Fly spp.[78]
Mazarine Blue[62]
Mediterranean Fruit Fly[73]
Mexican White (butterfly)[62]
Midge sp.[78]
Migratory Locust[79]
Monarch Butterfly[65]
Narrow-winged Damselfly spp.[64]
Parsnip Leaf Miner[78]
Pomace fly[78]
Queen Butterfly[65]
Red Ant sp.[78]
Red Flour Beetle[62]
Reindeer Warble Fly (Hypoderma tarandi)[78]
Rose Chafer[disambiguation needed][78]
Rove Beetle spp.[62]
Scarab Beetle (Melolonthine)[80]
Screwworm Fly[78]
Silkworm Moth[74]
Southeastern Blueberry Bee[70]
Southern Green Stink Bug[62]
Southern Masked Chafer[78]
Southern One-Year Canegrub[78]
Spreadwinged Damselfly spp.[64]
Spruce Budworm Moth[74]
Stable Fly sp.[78]
Stag Beetle spp.[62]
Tsetse Fly[78]
Water Boatman Bug[disambiguation needed][62]
Water Strider spp.[62]

Other invertebrates
Blood-Fluke[81]
Box Crab[82]
Harvest Spider sp.[83]
Hawaiian Orb-Weaver (spider)[83]
Incirrate Octopus spp.[82]
Jumping Spider and Some Select Yeast sp.[83]
Mite sp.[78]
Spiny-Headed Worm[84]
Amoeba and Barneys

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[Rorschach]

Where you seem to have no give and take in your opinion about it, I do.

So you know me personally do you SN.
Do you know if I'm gay bi or straight?
Do you know how many homosexuals I know and am friends with?
When you say animals are "gay" do you mean they join in the mardi gras, or just have sex with members of the same sex, or "love" members of the same sex or.....?

I note it says "displaying homosexual behaviour"... which behaviour exactly?

Free will? Care to share where I have ever said anything that would interfere with that? hmmm...

[Super Nova]

So you know me personally do you SN.
Do you know if I'm gay bi or straight?
Do you know how many homosexuals I know and am friends with?

No but I would not think differently about you if you were gay.

Do you know how many gay friends I have.

When you say animals are "gay" do you mean they join in the mardi gras, or just have sex with members of the same sex, or "love" members of the same sex or.....?

I note it says "displaying homosexual behaviour"... which behaviour exactly?

I suppose you would need to look at each animal and the example they have.

Free will? Care to share where I have ever said anything that would interfere with that? hmmm...

I never said you did. It is the nature vs nuture argument. If it is not natural.... then it is must free will.

I was taking the piss on the "give and take" line.... relax sherlock.

[IQS.RLOW]

Attributing homosexuality in animals is probably the greatest anthropomorphism since Walt came out with a talking mouse.

Gay agendas are ghey

[Rorschach]

Yes IQS a point I mentioned previously if not as clearly.

Do you know how many gay friends I have.

No, but I'm not insulting you am I?
I also don't treat my gay friends or theirs any differently than I do people who are not gay. So you can drop any homophobe inferences.

Re animals and insects, I gather anal sex isn't going to be a measure then is it... would you say it is a measure of human homosexuality? Perhaps just the male version?

Do you consider the dry humping of exuberant young dogs homosexual in nature?
Pretty hard to masturbate without hands isn't it?
Would rubbing of some kind take the place of it?
Would a non-human society then accept that as "normal" behaviour as opposed to specifically "homosexual" behaviour?
How do those insects exhibit their homosexuality?

[IQS.RLOW]

I treat my gay friends differently. If they have had too much to drink and crash the night, they have to sleep on plastic sheets in case they decide to get amorous during the night. I offer a place to stay, not a Vegemite sheet cleaning service.

[Rorschach]

I don't have stop overs...