Maybe we are alone in the universe

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Re: Maybe we are alone in the universe

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:35 pm

BigP wrote:
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I wouldn't say "we're alone". We look well too goodly engineered. Machined, kind of.
Im not sure what you are trying to say there Flek ?

Have you heard of the Flagellar motor (rotary motor)?
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Re: Maybe we are alone in the universe

Post by BigP » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:41 pm

FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:35 pm
BigP wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:15 pm
FLEKTARN wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:33 pm
I wouldn't say "we're alone". We look well too goodly engineered. Machined, kind of.
Im not sure what you are trying to say there Flek ?

Have you heard of the Flagellar motor (rotary motor)?

Wankel ?

I did an apprenticeship as an automotive engineer

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Re: Maybe we are alone in the universe

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:56 pm

Yep dee doo. You literally have a Wankel motor in your body, on a cellular level.

Gotta love the Mazdas.

Now in all seriousness, do see this, sir. It has a rotor, stator, U-joints, etc. Many swimming bacteria are propelled by flagellar filaments driven by a rotary motor. Each of these tiny motors can generate an impressive torque.

The bacterial flagellar motor (BFM) consists of a rotary motor embedded in the cell envelope connected to an extracellular helical propeller. The motor is powered by the flow of ions down an electrochemical gradient across the cytoplasmic membrane into the cell.

Most remarkably, the motor builds itself by assembling its constituent parts. It's one of the pinnacles of evolution, and, from a nanotechnology standpoint, it routinely outperforms our latest man-made nanomachines.

It is perhaps not surprising then that such complexity and technology has been hijacked for use as proof, via intelligent design, of the existence of a creator.

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Re: Maybe we are alone in the universe

Post by BigP » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:49 pm

FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:56 pm
Yep dee doo. You literally have a Wankel motor in your body, on a cellular level.

Gotta love the Mazdas.

Now in all seriousness, do see this, sir. It has a rotor, stator, U-joints, etc. Many swimming bacteria are propelled by flagellar filaments driven by a rotary motor. Each of these tiny motors can generate an impressive torque.

The bacterial flagellar motor (BFM) consists of a rotary motor embedded in the cell envelope connected to an extracellular helical propeller. The motor is powered by the flow of ions down an electrochemical gradient across the cytoplasmic membrane into the cell.

Most remarkably, the motor builds itself by assembling its constituent parts. It's one of the pinnacles of evolution, and, from a nanotechnology standpoint, it routinely outperforms our latest man-made nanomachines.

It is perhaps not surprising then that such complexity and technology has been hijacked for use as proof, via intelligent design, of the existence of a creator.

PHOTO:
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/103/5/ ... nload=true
Sounds like it is denial of the physics involed, Those bacteria need to feed on something "



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Re: Maybe we are alone in the universe

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:06 pm

I wouldn't go into details and try and change biology without even a simple microscope. I can give a ton of other examples too.
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