Position of Moderator

[mellie]

I knew you had a sore neck... weird hu!!

.... And I also know it's your neck pain that is responsible for that giant vulva growing off your forehead, or could it be the other way round.....hmmm....

You need to divorce it.... honestly...

[annielaurie]

There is no doubt that the election was for Admin., and let's not attempt to pretend otherwise

That's what I thought as well ..

[Jovial Monk]

Yet boxy called the thread “Voting for Moderator” hmmm some slimy implications there.

[skippy]

I'm not surprised ,FD was never going to let Aussie regain the admin this easily.

[Sappho]

I remember Aussie saying something about the constitution elections being for a mod and not admin... and that he would change the wording to reflect the real position of 'exalted leader'. So... it looks to me as though the constitution has gone and bit Aussie in the butt again... first because there is no sunset clause on petitions and second because the elections are for mod and not admin.

Doesn't explain why Boxy still holds global mod status though.

Incorrect Sappho. The election was always for 'Exalted Leader," and that is what I pointed out during the campaign. Boxy's 12 month's term as Exalted Leader expired as per the Constitution in late March.

There is no doubt that the election was for Admin., and let's not attempt to pretend otherwise.

But you said that the position of 'exalted leader' is noted as a mod role in the constitution and that you will therefore modify that. Where is the constitution? I want to read it.

[mellie]

The elections over .... moving right along now.



I'm happy with Boxy remaining admin... and if they decide to appoint mods, they may not, then I trust the board will be far better than it would have been had Aussie, Monk, or Lisa dabbled.

Most are happy with the outcome.... whats sticking in your craw?

Is it really worth going on about?

It just makes you look desperate....

[mellie]

I'm not surprised ,FD was never going to let Aussie regain the admin this easily.

Perhaps I underestimated FD...just a little.'

Still, I remain skeptical re- the Lisa IP incident over on ozpolitic, so....

[Aussie]

I remember Aussie saying something about the constitution elections being for a mod and not admin... and that he would change the wording to reflect the real position of 'exalted leader'. So... it looks to me as though the constitution has gone and bit Aussie in the butt again... first because there is no sunset clause on petitions and second because the elections are for mod and not admin.

Doesn't explain why Boxy still holds global mod status though.

Incorrect Sappho. The election was always for 'Exalted Leader," and that is what I pointed out during the campaign. Boxy's 12 month's term as Exalted Leader expired as per the Constitution in late March.

There is no doubt that the election was for Admin., and let's not attempt to pretend otherwise.

But you said that the position of 'exalted leader' is noted as a mod role in the constitution and that you will therefore modify that. Where is the constitution? I want to read it.

Here:

This is the constitution of the Democratic Dictatorship of Political Animal. If there is any ambiguity or confusion in it's interpretation, or omissions, the follow two principles apply.

1) This constitution is designed and intended to limit the power of exalted leader. The rational interpretation that places the greatest restriction on exalted leader's authority, and the greatest power in the hands of members, shall prevail.

2) If there is a precedent, use it.

There will be fresh elections for the position of exalted leader at least every twelve months. An early election or a referendum can be called at any time on the whim of exalted leader, or via petition.

Petitions

A petition can be used to trigger an election for the position of exalted leader or to trigger a referendum. A petition will be deemed successful if the number of signatories meets or exceeds the magic number. The magic number is calculated as follows: take the number of valid votes from the last election, divide by two, round up if necessary (by adding 0.5), then subtract the number of people who submitted a valid vote in that election who are currently unable to sign due to the actions of the admin (eg if they are banned or suspended). The signature of a banned member is not counted if the magic number has already been reduced on their account. All petitions remain active until they succeed or the current exalted leader is replaced with someone else. Once a referendum or election is triggered by a petition, it cannot be 'untriggered'.

Referenda

A referendum can be used to alter the constitution or overrule a decision of exalted leader, for example to reinstate a banned member. A referendum that obtains over 50% approval will be deemed a bloody good idea and will be passed. Anything less and the proposal will be deemed indecent. A referendum can be triggered by petition or by exalted leader.

Voting

All voting and petition signatures must be made public - no secret ballots. One vote per person. All voting will be based on mixed runoff and instant runoff elections. Voters may rank candidates, in which case preference distribution will be instantaneous at the close of polls. If this proves insufficient to reach a decision without disenfranchising any voters, one additional runoff round will be held. Only those members who voted for excluded candidates and did not allocate sufficient preferences need recast their vote in a runoff round. The option to change votes will be extended to all who have already voted, but only for the reduced candidate pool. A referendum may have more than two options, providing they are clearly defined.

Elections

All candidate nominations must be made on the forum by an enfranchised member. However, if a candidate is unable to accept on the forum, they may accept externally, provided it can be verified.

Role of exalted leader

Exalted leader has authority over forum policy and the day to day administration of the forum. This includes:
* appointing moderators
* deleting, editing and banning
* forum settings and forum layout, within the limitations imposed by the forum software
Exalted leader is servant of members, not master. Exalted leader has special constitutional powers to call an election or referendum at any time, without requiring a petition. Where a provision of the constitution undermines the authority of exalted leader, exalted leader is obliged to support the provision. This obligation comes without authority over the constitution or it's interpretation. That is, exalted leader is to serve the people via the constitution, but does not have final say on any constitutional matter. Exalted leader must facilitate the expression of the will of the members through constitutional processes by:
* helping members to use the constitution
* counting votes and signatures
* suggesting the outcome of an election or referendum
* suggesting the magic number

Rules
Personal information about other forum users must not be posted without their consent, which can be withdrawn at any time. This includes anything related to their true identity, for example a first name or nickname, ISP, IP number, location etc

It is to be found in Off Topic.

[mellie]

Yet boxy called the thread “Voting for Moderator” hmmm some slimy implications there.

Ha, and you arent sneaky, or slimy?


Perhaps it was a little something to teach those who treacherously pursue undeserved power a lesson, has this crossed your mind?


I secretly hope so.

[skippy]

I'm not surprised ,FD was never going to let Aussie regain the admin this easily.

Perhaps I underestimated FD...just a little.'

Still, I remain skeptical re- the Lisa IP incident over on ozpolitic, so....

MELLIE how many fucking times do I have to tell you, it was a fucking joke it was a fucking joke it was a fucking joke.