How desperate is our government
- billy the kid
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Re: How desperate is our government
No-one is asking this question....
If Ive had the jab...why do I have to go into lockdown...
Does the jab actually work....
Well...no it doesnt...it doesnt grant immunity...
BUT if Ive had the jab, Ive complied with the narrative....
Why should I have to comply with a lockdown.....
When are people going to start asking these questions....
When is the media going to wake up......
Do people have to go into hotel quarantine if theyve had the jab.....
If yes.....WHY...
If Ive had the jab...why do I have to go into lockdown...
Does the jab actually work....
Well...no it doesnt...it doesnt grant immunity...
BUT if Ive had the jab, Ive complied with the narrative....
Why should I have to comply with a lockdown.....
When are people going to start asking these questions....
When is the media going to wake up......
Do people have to go into hotel quarantine if theyve had the jab.....
If yes.....WHY...
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
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Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
- Black Orchid
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Re: How desperate is our government
Victoria’s Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton says it would currently be “problematic” to allow fully vaccinated people to be exempt from the state’s lockdown measures.
Video at the link. 2 mins.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6256185100001
So it's problematic if 'vaccinated' people don't go into full lockdown and it's problematic if 'vaccinated' people are seen at large gatherings. He's not exactly spruiking the jab too well.
Video at the link. 2 mins.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6256185100001
So it's problematic if 'vaccinated' people don't go into full lockdown and it's problematic if 'vaccinated' people are seen at large gatherings. He's not exactly spruiking the jab too well.
- Bobby
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Re: How desperate is our government
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:36 pmVictoria’s Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton says it would currently be “problematic” to allow fully vaccinated people to be exempt from the state’s lockdown measures.
Video at the link. 2 mins.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6256185100001
So it's problematic if 'vaccinated' people don't go into full lockdown and it's problematic if 'vaccinated' people are seen at large gatherings. He's not exactly spruiking the jab too well.
No vaccine stops you getting and even passing on a disease.
The vaccine stops you getting so sick that you need to go to hospital.
The vaccine normally stops you from dying.
- billy the kid
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Re: How desperate is our government
Back in the day I was in Sales....
We were always told that we had to
a) Sell ourselves
b) Then sell the product
My point is this...
A seller has to gain the trust and respect of the buyer before he attempts to sell the
product.
Irrespective of the quality of the product, a buyer will not buy it if he doesnt
respect, trust or even like the seller.
Apply this logic to the jab rollout...
If people have jab hesitancy, it doesnt necessarily imply that its because of the product.
It could simply be that the public (the buyers) dont trust the government.
Why not....
Well, you see its like this...
No state or federal politician has told us that after getting the jab we will not
have to wear a mask....
We havent been told that upon getting the jab we wont have to adhere to lockdown
restrictions such as 5 people to a household, no singing hymns in church, social distancing
etc etc...
We havent been told that after getting the jab, if we travel interstate, we wont have to
go into hotel quarantine at our expense for 14 days if there is a lockdown somewhere...
In other words, why should we get the jab if we arent being told of the payoff....
Is there a payoff...
Sutton answered this question about lockdowns today by using the word "problematic"
if someone got the jab whether he had to go into quarantine...
He is already saying that this would be a "problem" if people, upon being jabbed,
did not enter a quarantine if it was demanded.
Its like backing a horse and the bookie telling us if it wins, we might give you a slight
profit...then again, we may just give you your money back..or maybe just some of it....
AND if the horse loses....well....you lose the lot....its a poor deal....
No-one will/should get the jab unless the government answers the question....
"What will change if I get the jab...."
If there are no changes, why should anyone get the jab...
We were always told that we had to
a) Sell ourselves
b) Then sell the product
My point is this...
A seller has to gain the trust and respect of the buyer before he attempts to sell the
product.
Irrespective of the quality of the product, a buyer will not buy it if he doesnt
respect, trust or even like the seller.
Apply this logic to the jab rollout...
If people have jab hesitancy, it doesnt necessarily imply that its because of the product.
It could simply be that the public (the buyers) dont trust the government.
Why not....
Well, you see its like this...
No state or federal politician has told us that after getting the jab we will not
have to wear a mask....
We havent been told that upon getting the jab we wont have to adhere to lockdown
restrictions such as 5 people to a household, no singing hymns in church, social distancing
etc etc...
We havent been told that after getting the jab, if we travel interstate, we wont have to
go into hotel quarantine at our expense for 14 days if there is a lockdown somewhere...
In other words, why should we get the jab if we arent being told of the payoff....
Is there a payoff...
Sutton answered this question about lockdowns today by using the word "problematic"
if someone got the jab whether he had to go into quarantine...
He is already saying that this would be a "problem" if people, upon being jabbed,
did not enter a quarantine if it was demanded.
Its like backing a horse and the bookie telling us if it wins, we might give you a slight
profit...then again, we may just give you your money back..or maybe just some of it....
AND if the horse loses....well....you lose the lot....its a poor deal....
No-one will/should get the jab unless the government answers the question....
"What will change if I get the jab...."
If there are no changes, why should anyone get the jab...

To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
- Black Orchid
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Re: How desperate is our government
Due to the emerging variants and the fact that the jab may reduce your symptoms but won't stop you from getting Covid nor will it stop you from spreading it if you do become infected herd immunity is a pipe dream. So those who feel afraid and vulnerable should get the jab but those who don't should be able to make that choice without being abused for it.
- Bobby
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Re: How desperate is our government
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:58 pmDue to the emerging variants and the fact that the jab may reduce your symptoms but won't stop you from getting Covid nor will it stop you from spreading it if you do become infected herd immunity is a pipe dream. So those who feel afraid and vulnerable should get the jab but those who don't should be able to make that choice without being abused for it.
But which one should we get?

- Black Orchid
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Re: How desperate is our government
Asbestos contaminated baby powder? Probably made in Chna. 

- Bobby
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Re: How desperate is our government
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:36 pmAsbestos contaminated baby powder? Probably made in Chna.![]()
Johnson & Johnson Will Pay $100M in Baby Powder Lawsuits
Fact Checked
Written By:
Tim Povtak, Senior Content Writer for Asbestos.com
October 6, 2020
Pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson has agreed to pay more than $100 million to settle more than a thousand lawsuits claiming its iconic talc-based baby powder caused cancer, according to Bloomberg News.
The settlement stems from burgeoning litigation after earlier asbestos-contaminated talc was found in one of its products.
Johnson & Johnson, the world’s largest maker of health care merchandise, recalled 33,000 bottles of its baby powder in 2019, “out of an abundance of caution.”
It also stopped selling talc-based baby powder the same year in the United States and Canada, switching to a cornstarch-based product.
This will be the first time Johnson & Johnson has settled lawsuits in bulk involving talc contamination. It previously settled only individual cases before or during trial.
- billy the kid
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Re: How desperate is our government
Herd immunity wont happen in Australia....
Ill tell you why....
If someone asks Scumo how many people will be needed to reach herd immunity...
Scumo answers....eg.....15 million......
What will the punters do....nothing....
When we get to 14.5 million...people will say...we're nearly there....no need to get the jab....
Therefore herd immunity wont be reached...
BO is right...its a pipe dream....
On another point...
Sutton today wouldnt commit to the chance of a jabbed punter NOT having to go into quarantine....
Why....
Well, because he cant admit that the jab doesnt grant immunity....it only stops you from being
really sick...he wont emphasize this.....
Therefore....
YOU WILL have to go into quarantine, even if you get the jab...
Therefore...
YOU WILL have to continue to wear a mask if you get the jab...
THATS why we have hesitancy....
AND thats why it will continue...
The narrative will continue to unravel...
Ill tell you why....
If someone asks Scumo how many people will be needed to reach herd immunity...
Scumo answers....eg.....15 million......
What will the punters do....nothing....
When we get to 14.5 million...people will say...we're nearly there....no need to get the jab....
Therefore herd immunity wont be reached...
BO is right...its a pipe dream....
On another point...
Sutton today wouldnt commit to the chance of a jabbed punter NOT having to go into quarantine....
Why....
Well, because he cant admit that the jab doesnt grant immunity....it only stops you from being
really sick...he wont emphasize this.....
Therefore....
YOU WILL have to go into quarantine, even if you get the jab...
Therefore...
YOU WILL have to continue to wear a mask if you get the jab...
THATS why we have hesitancy....
AND thats why it will continue...
The narrative will continue to unravel...

To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
- billy the kid
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Re: How desperate is our government
"Dozens of passengers have been booted off a train in outback South Australia after the Northern Territory closed its border to Melbourne and Bendigo.
The Ghan train from Adelaide to Darwin was forced to make a pit stop at Marla, 970km north-west of the SA capital, on Thursday.
Thirty-two guests from greater Melbourne and Bendigo, who boarded the Ghan on Wednesday, were taken off the train and put on a bus back to Adelaide.
Journey Beyond, the operator of the iconic outback rail service, said it would ensure the group was provided overnight accommodation upon arrival."
Meanwhile, Qld CMO Jeanette Young admits that persons fully vaccinated, if the situation arises, will STILL
have to submit themselves to hotel quarantine if required to do so under any lockdown...
There you have it folks...
Both Sutton and Young are telling us that a jab wont preclude you from going into quarantine
if there is a lockdown anywhere....
I wonder what PCR cycle is being used at the moment in Australia for covid testing...
I suppose they could set it at 50....you could get a positive from a chunk of granite.....
What a shambles.....
The Ghan train from Adelaide to Darwin was forced to make a pit stop at Marla, 970km north-west of the SA capital, on Thursday.
Thirty-two guests from greater Melbourne and Bendigo, who boarded the Ghan on Wednesday, were taken off the train and put on a bus back to Adelaide.
Journey Beyond, the operator of the iconic outback rail service, said it would ensure the group was provided overnight accommodation upon arrival."
Meanwhile, Qld CMO Jeanette Young admits that persons fully vaccinated, if the situation arises, will STILL
have to submit themselves to hotel quarantine if required to do so under any lockdown...
There you have it folks...
Both Sutton and Young are telling us that a jab wont preclude you from going into quarantine
if there is a lockdown anywhere....
I wonder what PCR cycle is being used at the moment in Australia for covid testing...

I suppose they could set it at 50....you could get a positive from a chunk of granite.....
What a shambles.....
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...
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