How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

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How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Sat May 22, 2021 2:44 pm

Australia has managed to do what few other nations around the world have done. But now that could all be undone by two groups.

Australia really is the lucky country but that description was never meant as a compliment.

Instead, historian Donald Horne observed Australia was “a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck”.

It was an acerbically sneering assessment but looking at the Morrison government’s new confused, contradictory and cynical line on border closures it’s hard not to think that Horne was right.

We have taken the near miracle of our world-beating COVID response – a mixture of geographical good fortune, pragmatic policymaking and, in the case of our largest state at least, phenomenal contact tracing – and pissed it up against the wall in the name of base political populism.

Two polls this week prove this is true. The first, a Newspoll in The Australian, found 73 per cent of voters supported the Prime Minister’s hard line on borders, namely that they will remain shut until halfway through 2022.

The second, a survey by Resolve Strategic commissioned by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, found almost 30 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely to take the COVID-19 vaccine.

And why? Well, more than one in five vaccine sceptics surveyed said there was no rush to take it while the borders are closed.

In other words, the government’s lazy populism has locked the country in a COVID catch-22: The borders are closed because not enough people are getting the vaccine and not enough people are getting the vaccine because the borders are closed.

It is hard to imagine a more moronic hamster wheel for the nation to be caught on as we try to get our society and economy moving forward.

Indeed, it is almost unbelievable that after our extraordinary success in beating the virus we have arrived at a place where anti-vaxxers and loony lockdowners are effectively running the country.

It is also telling that the pro-lockdown brigade – largely of the authoritarian left – and the anti-vax brigade – largely of the libertarian right – now find themselves on the same side.

This is not in itself surprising – as I have often said, all extremists are the same – but it is staggering that they are dictating public policy.
And while it is supposedly on the basis of the often referred to but rarely seen “medical advice”, that fig leaf has been thoroughly blown away by the federal government’s own former deputy chief medical officer Nick Coatsworth, who has publicly called for a realistic reopening of borders starting from early next year and blasted the eradication strategy as a “false idol”.


More at the link ... https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... f5cd952272

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Re: How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Sat May 22, 2021 2:46 pm

On the one hand I want the borders opened up but on the other hand I don't want Australia swamped with infected Indians and Chinese which is what will happen.

Instead of just letting the masses in maybe we should open up so that we can travel outside Aus and be quarantined on return and see how that goes.

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Post by sprintcyclist » Sat May 22, 2021 10:04 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sat May 22, 2021 2:46 pm
On the one hand I want the borders opened up but on the other hand I don't want Australia swamped with infected Indians and Chinese which is what will happen.

Instead of just letting the masses in maybe we should open up so that we can travel outside Aus and be quarantined on return and see how that goes.
Yes, we can't afford ............. 'infected Indians and Chinese ' being flown here.

Wonder if we opened sequentially to specific low risk countries?
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Re: How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

Post by Texan » Sun May 23, 2021 6:35 am

You can't keep covid away forever. Now that the vaccine is available its time to let people be free to take care of themselves. You'll regret a permanent nanny state. Yes, that's my opinion and not my decision to make, but deep down you know I'm right.

We are nearing herd immunity and my household has enjoyed it for 10 months already. Mask wearers are the vast minority unless their employer is mandating it. We even ignore mask requirements in stores unless they specifically tell us individually.

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Re: How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

Post by billy the kid » Sun May 23, 2021 11:25 am

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... d=msedgntp
How absolutely ludicrous is this....
A lottery to coerce/convince the Australian sheep to get the jab...
Oregon is doing it...Ohio is doing it...
I wait with bated breath for our incompetent leaders to announce an Australian
Lottery...
Get the jab, get a lottery ticket with a chance to win big, and you can get on your
plane to fly to buckfuck or if Joyce gets his wish...overseas...
What a fkn joke........ :shock:
Meanwhile, In Victoria, people on public transport without a mask will be fined in a two week
blitz commencing tomorrow....
No direction yet from Andrews as to whether you need a mask or not if youve been jabbed...
Laughable....
No wonder the coppers are looking for another job due to their disbelief in performing their duties....
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Re: How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Sun May 23, 2021 11:47 am

Thank God I live in Sydney. No mask mandates not even on public transport.

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Post by billy the kid » Sun May 23, 2021 12:05 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... d=msedgntp
Doesnt it just warm your heart....
Enough jabs for everyone by Xmas....
Watch the sheep line up for the jab wearing a Santa hat....
Who knows, maybe the jabber will dress up like Santa...
Maybe the elves assisting Santa will dress like PlayBoy bunnies instead....
Now theres an idea....what an incentive...
Perhaps the elves could be hookers...... :rofl
I know....get the jabbers to wear bikinis.....
Hhmm...maybe not......
And whats the betting on conjob19 cases in Australia between now and Xmas.....
MY bet is.....
ZERO....(excepting in hotel quarantine....)...just to keep the hysteria going..... :rofl
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Re: How anti-vaxxers and the pro-lockdown crowd are now running Australia

Post by sprintcyclist » Sun May 23, 2021 12:43 pm

Texan wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 6:35 am
You can't keep covid away forever. Now that the vaccine is available its time to let people be free to take care of themselves. You'll regret a permanent nanny state. Yes, that's my opinion and not my decision to make, but deep down you know I'm right.

We are nearing herd immunity and my household has enjoyed it for 10 months already. Mask wearers are the vast minority unless their employer is mandating it. We even ignore mask requirements in stores unless they specifically tell us individually.
yes, no country can be a ............ ' a permanent nanny state. ............. ' without massive negative consequences.

Even then, an Australia fortress is not a viable long term status.
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