Fuck supermarkets

[Jovial Monk]

Don't go there! My old butcher reckons that the time period between an animal being slaughtered and it appearing in styrofoam/clingwrap in the meat fridge could be YEARS! Look in vain for Jonathan apples--they don't store well and so are not stocked! Look at all the cottonwool balls labeled "Golden Delicious" which does store well and so has space on s/mart shelves.

Don't buy any food, tinned or whatever, produced in China. Nightsoil!

Look for decent fruit & veg shops: REAL fruit & veg is not totally blemish free, only that drenched in fucking herbicides/insecticides and that sort of SHIT looks perfect! Central Markets, Farmers markets, honest food vendors, find them, patronise them!

Oh but the meat looks so nice and pink in the s/mart! Well, a hint of carbon monoxide under the clingwrap and the meat will look great for weeks, even if left in the sun! Find a decent butcher shop! Supermarkets have no idea how to cut meat, fucking steaks about as thin as the veal in vienna schnitzel! A steak can be small, but have your butcher cut it THICK!

Fruit & veg grown at home is the best there is (not sure it is always economic, but we are talking about FOOD, a holy subject and one that can kill us or keep us healthy! Supermarket tomatoes are good standins when you have forgottent to bring the tennis balls--they have absofuckinglutely no flavor AT ALL! you can buy dwarf varieties of lots of fruit trees, espalier apple trees etc etc.

Potatoes, NEVER buy the fucking crap, pallid white things at the s/mart! Proper potatoes have yelow flesh and have flavor!

[freediver]

My old butcher reckons that the time period between an animal being slaughtered and it appearing in styrofoam/clingwrap in the meat fridge could be YEARS!

Nice of him to badmouth the competition. I'm sure he has your best interests at heart. That being said, I buy almost all my beef from a butcher. It's about 1/3 the price of coles and woolies.

Look in vain for Jonathan apples--they don't store well and so are not stocked! Look at all the cottonwool balls labeled "Golden Delicious" which does store well and so has space on s/mart shelves.

I'm sure if people actually bought them then they would stock them. If you want varieties that don't store well, grow them at home and eat them fresh. There's no point complaining that the supermarket won't do it for you.

Look for decent fruit & veg shops: REAL fruit & veg is not totally blemish free, only that drenched in fucking herbicides/insecticides and that sort of SHIT looks perfect! Central Markets, Farmers markets, honest food vendors, find them, patronise them!

You can make good money by purchasing cheap supermarket fruit and veges in bulk, throwing a bit of dirt on them, then offloading them at the local farmers market as organic. Add a bit of salmonella to make it truly authentic.

Oh but the meat looks so nice and pink in the s/mart! Well, a hint of carbon monoxide under the clingwrap and the meat will look great for weeks, even if left in the sun!

Have you ever noticed how some of it can be grey and some bright red? Also, do they add water to beef mince? Since I started using roo mince I notice how much water comes off beef mince as it is being cooked.

[mantra.]

I don't eat much red meat - but I often pick it up cheap at Bi-Lo for the dog. You can buy rump, sirloin and that other one that looks like a cheap version of T-bone often for $6 a kilo. The dog won't eat tinned food - so she has a grill for dinner usually which is a big nuisance at times.

Most of my fruit and vegetables come from the fruit shop, although if local tomatoes & lettuces are available at the supermarket - I'll usually get them if they look fresh. It's not often you can get a decent apple. I used to have a crab apple tree and even though the apples were greenish and a bit bitter, they were tasty. It's the same with oranges & mandarins - I had trees with beautiful fruit, but they had to go when I had some work done. It's rare to find a nice orange.

In fact it's hard to find any decent fruit, whether at the supermarket or fruit shop. Half the stuff is rotten, old or tastes like plastic.

I won't buy anything from China. A couple of years ago I tried some of those imported prawns - they looked nice, but I couldn't get further than taking the head off - they were so filthy inside and they smelt.

In fact everything you buy today is imported, old, tasteless or filled with chemicals - it's amazing Australia has an obesity epidemic, although quite understandable why cancer is so prevalent.

[Auzgurl]

Yes I've noticed the grey/red colour on mince FD...and the tomatoes are the most tasteless. I dont think kids today know what real fruit and veg taste like..its hard to get them to be enthusiatic. I try to grow some in pots- havent made that compost pile yet.
Apples Monk can be so devoid of moisture they are as you say like cottonwool. That goes for most fruit much of it is floury and dry. DISGUSTING!!!

No nutrition. And they talk about the dimished health of children today. Fast food on the one hand and very poor quality food in general on the other.

No wonder the pharmaceutical companies make so much money by way of vitamins that mostly are'nt utilised by the body anyway.

[freediver]

The claim that modern supermarket fruit and veges are poorer nutritionally has very little evidence to back it up.

[Auzgurl]

The claim that modern supermarket fruit and veges are poorer nutritionally has very little evidence to back it up.

could be..but I think when we know how long they sit in storage etc etc..both meat and veg..its just commonsense I feel. Fresh is best?

[boxy]

Damn, I thought this thread was going to be about a Super-brothel! Ripped off.

Get a job, hippies

[Jovial Monk]

Real beef will turn grey on contact with air, is why s/mart crap has carbon monoxide under the wrp.

Since my local butcher is two doors down from my shop he would get my business anyway. I mean, when I see TBone there i ask him to cut me a special bit of steak, from the big end of the joint, plenty of fillet in and get him to cut it like 3cm thick. Now, THAT is steak! Especially when he has aged it a bit.

Mantra do NOT cook the meat for your dog! His teeth and digestion are suited to eating raw meat.

My dog gets a chicken wing straight out the freezer, I just take the clingwrap off

Look at Choice for studies re nutrition: organic wins everytime. Don't ask me about flabby hydroponic lettuce!

[Jovial Monk]

And FD the s/mart chains like to buy stuff big when cheap, store it and sell over as period of time: like I said Jonathans do not store so the s/mart won't stock it no matter HM people plead for it to do so! You may believe this long term storage doesn't lead to a loss of flavor & nutrition but I am afraid I just laugh at your naivity

[Gwenhwyfar]

Not to mention the garlic...