Driverless cars from $20k
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Driverless cars from $20k
There are endless articles devoted to driverless cars and which manufacturer is closest to going commercial with their model.
With stories of fatal crashes during testing, uncertainty over regulation and an innate fear of technology we’re not quite in control of, having your own self-driven car seems a long way off.
What you may not realise is that they’re a lot closer to being on our streets that you might imagine – in fact, you may even be driving a car which is largely autonomous already.
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Last year Honda announced a model available in the US is already capable of driving autonomously and costs as little as US$20,400.
What’s in a name?
Many models in the Australian market offer a variety of autonomous features – or what are generically referred to as Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS). Broadly speaking these include:
blind spot monitoring,
adaptive cruise control,
following distance warning,
lane keep assist,
lane departure warning,
self-parking,
adaptive headlights,
fatigue warning, and
traffic-jam assist
But in an effort to market these features as unique and proprietary for a competitive advantage, some manufacturers create their own names. Mazda for example calls this suite of ADAS “i-Activsense” and Volvo’s brand is “IntelliSafe”.
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Models which carry some or all of these features as optional extras include Australia’s most popular brands: Nissan, Ford, BMW, Volvo, Honda, Jeep, Holden, Mazda, Audi, VW, Toyota, Subaru and Mercedes Benz.
What does no driver cost?
Far from being the big-ticket item it once was, the creeping advancement of ADAS means that you won’t need to pay $100,000 for a top-of-the-range Tesla to own a driverless car.
With Google, Apple and other technology companies making serious plays in the space, along with traditional manufacturers, competition will lead to rapid development and competitive pricing.
Optional ADAS packages available in the market now add between $1500-$3,000 to the sticker price of a car and a fully automated car is estimated to add between $7,000-$10,000 by around 2025, dropping to $3,000 by 2035.
When will I be able to buy a fully autonomous vehicle?
While the technology is essentially available now for autonomous vehicles, there are still so many regulatory hoops manufacturers will have to jump through that a fully driverless car is unlikely to hit roads commercially anywhere in the world before 2020 according to IHS Automotive, which published a report forecasting 600,000 sales, growing to 21 million sales globally by 2035.
Even then, would you buy one?
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/the-r ... 14817.html
It's interesting to think were we are going.
With stories of fatal crashes during testing, uncertainty over regulation and an innate fear of technology we’re not quite in control of, having your own self-driven car seems a long way off.
What you may not realise is that they’re a lot closer to being on our streets that you might imagine – in fact, you may even be driving a car which is largely autonomous already.
Also read: Housing affordability not just about prices: Reserve Bank
Last year Honda announced a model available in the US is already capable of driving autonomously and costs as little as US$20,400.
What’s in a name?
Many models in the Australian market offer a variety of autonomous features – or what are generically referred to as Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS). Broadly speaking these include:
blind spot monitoring,
adaptive cruise control,
following distance warning,
lane keep assist,
lane departure warning,
self-parking,
adaptive headlights,
fatigue warning, and
traffic-jam assist
But in an effort to market these features as unique and proprietary for a competitive advantage, some manufacturers create their own names. Mazda for example calls this suite of ADAS “i-Activsense” and Volvo’s brand is “IntelliSafe”.
Also read: Housing affordability not just about prices: Reserve Bank
Models which carry some or all of these features as optional extras include Australia’s most popular brands: Nissan, Ford, BMW, Volvo, Honda, Jeep, Holden, Mazda, Audi, VW, Toyota, Subaru and Mercedes Benz.
What does no driver cost?
Far from being the big-ticket item it once was, the creeping advancement of ADAS means that you won’t need to pay $100,000 for a top-of-the-range Tesla to own a driverless car.
With Google, Apple and other technology companies making serious plays in the space, along with traditional manufacturers, competition will lead to rapid development and competitive pricing.
Optional ADAS packages available in the market now add between $1500-$3,000 to the sticker price of a car and a fully automated car is estimated to add between $7,000-$10,000 by around 2025, dropping to $3,000 by 2035.
When will I be able to buy a fully autonomous vehicle?
While the technology is essentially available now for autonomous vehicles, there are still so many regulatory hoops manufacturers will have to jump through that a fully driverless car is unlikely to hit roads commercially anywhere in the world before 2020 according to IHS Automotive, which published a report forecasting 600,000 sales, growing to 21 million sales globally by 2035.
Even then, would you buy one?
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/the-r ... 14817.html
It's interesting to think were we are going.
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
No, absolutely not.J o h n S m i t h wrote: Even then, would you buy one?[/i]
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
like all modern technology, the younger will take it up first until, as they get older, it becomes the norm.Black Orchid wrote: No, absolutely not.
I suspect you'll have far fewer accidents than you do now.
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
Modern technology is great in some ways but it is going too far in others. Pretty soon we'll be pushing buttons on a screen, our food order will just pop out ready made and we won't have to cook. Our washing will be done automatically and we already have robotic vacuum cleaners, robotic lawn mowers and now robotic cars.
All this will achieve is generations of lazy and overweight people who won't have a clue how to do anything themselves. Their brains will shrink along with their senses and muscles and they will probably all die younger with Alzheimers.
If it takes away our ability to think or do ... I can't see too many benefits really. Too many people don't want to think or do already.
All this will achieve is generations of lazy and overweight people who won't have a clue how to do anything themselves. Their brains will shrink along with their senses and muscles and they will probably all die younger with Alzheimers.
If it takes away our ability to think or do ... I can't see too many benefits really. Too many people don't want to think or do already.
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
no it takes away the mundane, which they won't need to do anyway. How many people can shoe a horse today? Once aupon a time it was a necessary skillBlack Orchid wrote: All this will achieve is generations of lazy and overweight people who won't have a clue how to do anything themselves.
no it doesn't, it just redirects your thinking to other, less mundane tasksBlack Orchid wrote: If it takes away our ability to think or do ...
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some people enjoy driving. others don't. i am one of the later. i find the whole thing draining. i look forward to riding in a driverless car, hopefully, one owned by a rideshare company and not by me ... the sharing economy, an idea whose time is coming ...
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Raven is unsure of the idea of completely driverless cars because sooner or later the car is going to have to make an ethical decision.
Scenario: You are in your driverless car and about to have a massive collision, this collision will be fatal.
The only option the computer in the car has is to swerve on a footpath where three people are walking. The car has to decide if it sacrifices the life of it's sole occupant or swerve and kill three people.
Essentially one day you will buy a car that is programmed, in certain situations, to kill you.
Scenario: You are in your driverless car and about to have a massive collision, this collision will be fatal.
The only option the computer in the car has is to swerve on a footpath where three people are walking. The car has to decide if it sacrifices the life of it's sole occupant or swerve and kill three people.
Essentially one day you will buy a car that is programmed, in certain situations, to kill you.
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
i think you are on to something ...Raven wrote: Essentially one day you will buy a car that is programmed, in certain situations, to kill you.
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
Skynet is insidious.AiA in Atlanta wrote:i think you are on to something ...Raven wrote: Essentially one day you will buy a car that is programmed, in certain situations, to kill you.
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k
Like?J o h n S m i t h wrote:no it doesn't, it just redirects your thinking to other, less mundane tasks
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