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AiA in Atlanta
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Post by AiA in Atlanta » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:43 am

mellie wrote:
Chronic bronchitis may develop if a person has repeated bouts of illness that are not well cared for, or if other factors such as smoking, exposure to polluted air, and allergies have lowered the person’s resistance and made the lungs susceptible. Homeopathic remedies may help relieve discomfort caused by coughing and help the body overcome infection. Serious or prolonged bronchitis requires a physician’s attention.

I had a physician's attention for a decade and all I did was get worse year by year. Homeopathy sparked something in my body that lead the body to heal. Remember, all the physicians said my condition would worsen with age. The option to heal was never mentioned.

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Post by mantra » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:42 am

mellie wrote:
Not all homoeopaths are opportunistic and exploitive, though I think it's good practice to exercise a little common-sense and caution when sorting any alternative therapy, (particularly when it comes to the more serious ailments) be it homoeopathy or some other alternative therapy.


These treatments do play a positive role in keeping patients morale and spirits up, ( I do believe in the power of positive thought, this and have seen patients virtually will themselves to death, stop eating, given up the will to live etc) ... though I just think it's important patients understand these alternative/complimentary therapies curative and medicinal limitations, that's all.

Each to their own.

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Positive thinking is essential, but so many doctors say to a patient that they've only got so much time left if their condition is terminal. Some people defy these dire predictions and go on to live for years longer. Giving someone a time frame for their death is like pointing the bone, an exercise used by primitive witch doctors.

In regard to Monks' statement that fish oil and prescription anti-inflammatories is all that's available for arthritis - he is wrong. Prescription anti-inflammatories have some serious and unpleasant side effects yet doctors continue to prescribe them. I've broken a few bones during my lifetime and a few months ago I was concerned at how stiff and sore I had become in my movements. I'd heard a herbalist recommend Lyprinol - a NZ green-lipped mussel oil extract and upon starting it got almost instant relief. All the inflammation has now gone and my movement and flexibility is better than it has been for years. Generally my health is better and I experience very little pain. It not only has anti-inflammatory properties - it boosts the auto immune system which when not functioning properly, is the root cause for many ailments.

Obviously everyone has different needs, but we're all treated as one. We should keep our mind open to various alternatives to prescription drugs. Too many doctors are set in their ways and won't budge from anything except conventional medicine. There is much to offer out there, but we need to look for ourselves if we're not satisfied with the chemicals on offer.

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Post by Tired of this » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:37 am

The Monk just said he takes them, did not say that was all there is.

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Post by Mattus » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:43 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:I had a physician's attention for a decade and all I did was get worse year by year. Homeopathy sparked something in my body that lead the body to heal. Remember, all the physicians said my condition would worsen with age. The option to heal was never mentioned.
What you have described is recurrent lung infection, rather than chronic bronchitis.

In your story, you recount an occasion where you refused to take your prescribed medicine on the advice of a homeopath and as a result spent the next week in bed at death's door. When you eventually recovered, you had developed immunity. It is quite likely that the medicine you refused to take would have suppressed that immune response and, while you would have spent less time at death's door, you may also have not developed immunity and continued to suffer recurrent infection. I suspect the homeopathic remedy (i.e. water) played no part in your recovery. But one can't be certain unless a control (i.e. a person unwell like yourself who refuses to take medicine but also doesn't take the homeopathic remedy) was run in parallel.

While this is a great outcome for you, you should also be aware that someone who was perhaps older or weaker might not have survived the 5 days in bed with a severe chest infection without medicine. In fact it is clinically proven that the medicine you refused to take saves lives, reduces hospitalizations and is effective when you examine the effect when compared to taking no medicine at a population level. Some who survive a lung infection without medicine may come out of it with immunity but also severe scarring which is worse. For this reason you doctor encouraged you to take it.

On an individual level though, some people - such as yourself - may be better off in the long term not taking the medicine if they can survive the lung infection without it.
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Post by Black Orchid » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:59 am

I have a friend who has suffered with arthritis for many years. Recently she started taking Turmeric Curcumin and is now back at work, on her feet all day and relatively pain free.

Different horses and all that?

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Post by Tired of this » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:15 pm

Nah, she is taking mild anti inflammatory. Eventually that won’t be enough—arthritis is still there.

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Post by Black Orchid » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:44 pm

Tired of this wrote:Nah, she is taking mild anti inflammatory. Eventually that won’t be enough—arthritis is still there.
It's not a cure but different things give different people different forms of relief. Too many differents ugg

Typical anti inflammatories can leave you with ulcers, a hole in your intestine or heart disease

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Post by annielaurie » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:50 pm

Anti-inflammatories (and all NSAIDS) make me sick in my stomach, and feel terrible, and they have never helped with any kind of pain I ever had, either ..

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Post by Black Orchid » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:52 pm

Was replying to Mattus and the post disappeared?

I know it isn't a homeopathic remedy but I just thought it could be of interest to some. Numerous clinical trials have been conducted for arthritis, cancer and alzheimers

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Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:41 pm

I do take Celebrex which is a COX-1 inhibitor, not COX-1 and COX-2, so a milder NSAID but only use it as necessary and take nine fish oil tablets as 3 lots of 3 everyday—these are extremely mild anti inflammatories and are supposedly good for heart and other functions too.

But if I exercise too much without rest breaks my hip is very fucking sore! A hip replacement is on offer, that will help a lot. By the time the arthritis in my left hip and lower back is a problem hopefully stem cells to rebuild the joint cartilege will be available.

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