Sisters ordered back to Italy

[Bart]

He would have to be twice her age and some more.

So are you saying the mother was stupid for getting married to your claim that he is an old man/father, or are you saying she sold herself to the highest bidder?

So what has the age of the father got to do with anything?????
Apart from flying off on a tangent whilst standing on a soap box about some issue
Oh and there's still no link to what the father's age actually is or the mother's.
So may as well make some wild allegation that the mother is an old woman!

[mantra]

So what has the age of the father got to do with anything?????
Apart from flying off on a tangent whilst standing on a soap box about some issue
Oh and there's still no link to what the father's age actually is or the mother's.
So may as well make some wild allegation that the mother is an old woman!

The age of the father is irrelevant apart from the fact that energy levels deplete as we age, but the father isn't 70 as I first thought - he is 35, probably 3 years older than the mother.

The Family Court, regardless of whether they believe the children should stay with the mother or not, had to follow the law. Like Italy, we have signed the Hague Convention which means that if the situation was reversed, Italy would order the children be returned to Australia.

Docs allegedly assisted the mother in keeping the children here. Even if the father drops the charges against the mother, it is quite possible that the Italian government will take action and have the mother arrested when she gets off the plane there.

Seeing how distressed the children are - surely a caring father would relinquish custody to the mother? He is not going to prove anything by his actions. If the girls are determined to get back to their mother - they will, even if he does exercise corporal punishment to shut them up.

[Bart]

Well the father is NOT old or 70 years or anywhere near that.
There's a report in today's paper that the girls had their last taste of freedom.
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!
But don't let the crap interefere with the facts, as long as it can play on the emotions of those ignorant sexist readers.
Don't you just love the negativity being applied to the father, yet it was the mother who committed the criminal act of abduction two years ago!!

Going by the photos the father is a similar age to that of the mother.

[Bart]

it is quite possible that the Italian government will take action and have the mother arrested when she gets off the plane there.

Well the mother committed the criminal act of abduction in Italy so she should face the music.
The Australian Family court has no part in that process.

Seeing how distressed the children are - surely a caring father would relinquish custody to the mother?

The emotions were no doubt motivated and encouraged by the uncaring selfish mother.
Obviously the sexist press and readers have forgotten that the father left Australia sometime ago as he saw the distress that the mother was causing.
The mother only came to Australia as she knew that Australia's Family court system was controlled by the femo-nazis and wanted to take advantage of that for her own self-centered concerns.

[Aussie]

You are incredible mantra. You posts such shit and you do it with the intent that readers believe it. Yesterday, you made two posts, one stating that the father was 70 years of age, and the other that he was at least twice the age of the Mother. Now,

................but the father isn't 70 as I first thought - he is 35, probably 3 years older than the mother.

Now this revelation:

The Family Court, regardless of whether they believe the children should stay with the mother or not, had to follow the law.

No shit Sherlock! (Courts are bound by the Law, and nothing else.) Say it ain't so someone!!!

More rubbish!

Docs allegedly assisted the mother in keeping the children here.

Got any evidence/link?

Even if the father drops the charges against the mother, it is quite possible that the Italian government will take action and have the mother arrested when she gets off the plane there.

On what charges, mantra?

Seeing how distressed the children are - surely a caring father would relinquish custody to the mother? He is not going to prove anything by his actions.

He is proving the depth to which he cares for his daughters. How many other Fathers would have had the devotion, resources, tenacity and determination to ensure the unlawful conduct of the Mother was seen for what it is.............an act of planned abduction, one designed to limit the influence and contact the Father would otherwise have on his Children. Would you be calling him callous and cold if he just turned his back on the abduction of his Children?

If the girls are determined to get back to their mother - they will, even if he does exercise corporal punishment to shut them up.

You are bent.

[Bart]

This issue really has exposed the sexist attitudes of the media, and a lot of readers and posters have belived the sexist media.

[AnimalMother]

In America they murder their partner/spouse and often the children as well. Saves on all this Court and Divorce stuff. Amazing that people think it "easier" and cheaper to kill than divorce!

That's because the American divorce system is so badly fucked up, that in many cases it really is easier and cheaper to kill. Australia is not far behind.

[Bart]

In America they murder their partner/spouse and often the children as well. Saves on all this Court and Divorce stuff. Amazing that people think it "easier" and cheaper to kill than divorce!

In Australia it's easier for women to murder because the courts system allow wives to murder their hubbys and let them walk free.
All the wife needs to do is make up some story which the dead hubby cannot refute - why , cause he's DEAD! (eg McDonald)

[mantra]

Plenty of husbands/boyfriends get lenient sentences too. The maiming ones which are the most horrific usually result in the perpetrators getting a good behaviour bond. The majority of them are male.

In a brief response to Aussie - Docs and allegedly the same department in Italy became involved in helping the mother. The details are scattered and oblique and you would have to trawl through documents and older articles to drag out proof and that I'm not going to do for you.

The opinion of this Qld Lib MP just about sums it up if you've been following the story.

Mr Somlyay believes the girls were not kidnapped, as the father claimed, but moved for permanent resettlement on the Sunshine Coast.

The court found the father had not agreed to the move. But Mr Somlyay claimed, "it was only after the kids came out here that he had a change of heart".

Mr Somlyay said the process was "not fair" for the mother.

The mother was three times denied Legal Aid and forced to defend herself initially in the court.

The father, by invoking Hague anti-abduction rules, had the weight of Commonwealth-paid lawyers.

"It's not fair when one party in the litigation gets help and the other party doesn't," he said.

Errors in the mother's handling of the case led to a critical declaration of an Italian witness not being presented in proper form for the court. It claimed the father, at the time he signed the children's passports, was looking for work in Australia and intended to move here with the mother and children.

It also was bizarre that one set of Commonwealth bureaucrats was working to "rescue" the mother from an alleged abusive relationship in 2010, while other federal bureaucrats were working to send her and the children back to Italian courts.

"After 23 years in Parliament nothing surprises me," Mr Somlyay said.

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[Bart]

Plenty of husbands/boyfriends get lenient sentences too.

A lenient sentence to a male is a heavy sentence to a female.