Where's the budgie now, fellas?

[Black Orchid]

I find lots of women sexy. I am not attracted to them but I can appreciate beauty

We all have different tastes and triggers. I find Bishop far more attractive than Gillard but don't find either one sexy

I don't find Gillard's ratty looks/features appealing at all. Tony Abbott isn't appealing to me either but I don't find him repulsive

Lucky we are all different or we would all want the same people/person

[freediver]

It's easy to compare the two Mantra, Tony looks hot in his speedos at age 55, and Gillard looks like a pear-shaped beanbag with eyes, and to think, she hasn't even had kids to blame it on.

That's a first Mel - "Abbott is hot". There have never been any attractive politicians - perhaps Stephen Smith and Malcolm Turnbull were OK in their prime, but the rest of them are insignificant in their physical appeal.

If I were a religious person, I'd say the good lord gave her that body so as to caution/deter, scare off members of the opposite sex, you know, the way blue ringed octopuses similarly turn fluorescent blue to scare off would be predators.

Jokes!

Gillard is plain, but she's not ugly. She's lost some weight recently and her dress sense has improved. Bishop is worse with those thin lips, bony face and huge jaw. I can't judge a female as sexy and I haven't studied Gillard in detail, but I sense that she has some sex appeal to males. There is nothing sexy about Abbott. Mel - you need glasses.

I love it when women keep each other in line.

So what about John Howard? Did he do it for any of you? Anyone with an eyebrow fetish?

[Black Orchid]

Yes I deleted the indecent and disgusting bit in case RS got too upset.

Anyway, whether you like them or not I wouldn't consider them any more "indecent" than a bikini

I can't see how you can compare the two. Still - even if Abbott wore board shorts I would find him hard on the eyes.

I understand that you don't find Abbott appealing but why do you think speedos are more indecent than a bikini?

Boobs hang out of bikini tops. Quite a bit shows which, I am sure, the men love - but everything is covered in speedos. Is it the bulge you find offensive?

I just don't get it, which is why I am asking

[Rorschach]

She doesn't.
She just hates Abbott like she hated Howard... she even just admitted nothing would change her mind... all that crap about speedos and she'd still hate him in board shorts... it's all about irrational hate for mantra... politics is all personal for her.

[freediver]

Rorshach are you suggesting that Mantra's dislike of Abbott has nothing to do with his clothes (or lack thereof) and is therefor irrational?

[Rorschach]

Yes I believe that is what I said.
On top of which mantra's politics is/are irrational.

[mantra]

So what about John Howard? Did he do it for any of you? Anyone with an eyebrow fetish?

He didn't do it for me. I'm amazed that he attracted someone like Janette who was quite pretty when she was young. He also had 3 pleasant looking children. Fortunately they didn't inherit his genes or his eyebrows. Hmmmm.

I understand that you don't find Abbott appealing but why do you think speedos are more indecent than a bikini?

Boobs hang out of bikini tops. Quite a bit shows which, I am sure, the men love - but everything is covered in speedos. Is it the bulge you find offensive?

I just don't get it, which is why I am asking

Speedos are like a second skin and Abbott's speedos are like a baggy second skin. A female can go topless and most people wouldn't blink twice - but revealing genitals is a more personal issue altogether. Speedos are OK on young men as long as they're in good condition and the elastic is still firm. Abbott's speedos are almost as old and threadbare as him.

She doesn't.
She just hates Abbott like she hated Howard... she even just admitted nothing would change her mind... all that crap about speedos and she'd still hate him in board shorts... it's all about irrational hate for mantra... politics is all personal for her.

You've got this me "hating Howard" on the brain. I disliked him years ago when he was pm, but don't care one way or the other about him now. I can probably see more good about him now than I could 6 years ago.

Politics is not as personal for me as it is for you. I don't react like a big, angry, abusive, indignant baby everytime someone says something unpleasant about the Greens. You are seriously pathetic.

I would like Abbott better if he was honest with himself and handed his job to someone else. He's burnt out.

[Mattus]

We all have different tastes and triggers. I find Bishop far more attractive than Gillard but don't find either one sexy

I don't find Gillard's ratty looks/features appealing at all. Tony Abbott isn't appealing to me either but I don't find him repulsive

Top drawer political discourse here. Really glad I checked in. It's like the faculty room at the Lowy in here, folks. Keep it up.

[Rorschach]

Abbott's speedos are almost as old and threadbare as him.

Total bullshit mantra. Which makes you rather pathetic.

Politics is not as personal for me as it is for you. I don't react like a big, angry, abusive, indignant baby everytime someone says something unpleasant about the Greens. You are seriously pathetic.

Either do I.

As for the sentiment... it's probably just transference on your behalf.
if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen mantra.