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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Sappho » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:37 pm

lisa jones wrote:What's at the core of your interest? Are you culturally linked? It's got me curious.


My core interests are greek philosophy, mythology and culture, but I'm not greek.

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Sappho » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:49 pm

TomB wrote:Let's start with togas ....... and parties.

What length toga was deemed acceptable evening wear during the reign of Maximus Thrax?
the toga was 3 times the length of the person and it's width depended on the season... longer in winter and shorter in summer. actually, the interesting thing about the toga is that it was worn in the early days by women also. they originate from the Lydians i think, but also the Etruscans followed the fashion and then the Latins who made it the icon it is now and also a manly garment rather than garment for men and women.

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:08 pm

A Greek man and an Italian man were arguing about which of their countries was superior, covering many fields like the Olympics, art and music.

Eventually, in a bold assertion of superiority the Greek said

The Greeks discovered sex…..we are superior

The Italian replied
Yes, but we discovered how to do sex with women

Yes, Italians also had to show Greek men how to have sex with women that were not their mothers and which hole to stick it in.

All you need to know about Greeks and Romans! These days it is more important to know about Geeks and Roaming charges!

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Sappho » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:15 pm

lisa jones wrote:The story is that Diogenes carried a lantern around in broad daylight and when asked why, he answered that he was searching for an honest man.

He was a Greek philosopher who believed that virtue was best demonstrated in action (rather than in speech). He is said to have never found his 'honest man.'

I 1st heard about Diogenes as a 6 yr old girl .. and he left a lasting impression on me. The guy did everything possible to find/see something .. and despite all his best efforts .. he could never find/see it. In short .. he had a very novel and quirky way of proving his point. He was also an effective communicator because people could never forget what he said given the unique manner in which he delivered the message.
Hmmm I think you have it a little mixed up there... whilst it is true that he preferred the oral tradition over the newly emerging written process, the main thrust of his philosophy was for people to strive in reason because the rational man is less lible to make mistakes (read that as ethical errors).

He and Plato hated each other. Plato called Diogenes a "Socrates gone mad." In fact a lot of people would claim him mad because of his unconventional lifestyle... he broke social norms like they were going out of fashion... he valued social conventions less than he did such things as nature and reason. I'm pretty sure that it was him who would say that if it's natural in the privacy of your own home then it's ok in public too.

He was exiled from his place of birth wasn't he? Something to do with defacing or tampering with the coinage? Either him or his father... it's debatable.

What ever the case, I'm not a fan of the cynics and stoics... too harsh for my tastes... too harsh by halves.

And anyways... man is great at thinking rationally... it's the acting rationally that we stuggle with... and Diogenes has nothing to advise upon that conundrum.

One of my favs is Epicurus... the man who gave us the atom, hedonism and freedom from the gods.

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Neferti » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:50 pm

I thought Diogenes was The Cynic in Greek Mythology?

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by lisa jones » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:59 pm

Sappho wrote:
lisa jones wrote:What's at the core of your interest? Are you culturally linked? It's got me curious.


My core interests are greek philosophy, mythology and culture, but I'm not greek.
Oh .. ok. That's nice. Well in that case .. something tells me this topic is going to be very interesting.
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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:34 pm

Sappho wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:I think the artistic merits of the movie Caligula would be an ideal starting point :mrgreen:
I saw the uncut version when I was 16. That was an eye opener. :shock:
It was shown in my 'social studies' class back in year 9 by accident by a not too bright young teacher who didn't realise it wasn't a documentary :lol:
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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Sappho » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:50 pm

Neferti~ wrote:I thought Diogenes was The Cynic in Greek Mythology?
Diogenes was a real man. Who is 'The Cynic' from Greek Mythology? Cynic is greek for 'dog-like'.

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by Neferti » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:55 pm

Sappho wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:I thought Diogenes was The Cynic in Greek Mythology?
Diogenes was a real man. Who is 'The Cynic' from Greek Mythology? Cynic is greek for 'dog-like'.

I occasionally registered as Diogenes on a few Forums. Not necessarily political ones.

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Re: It's all Greek and Roman to me...

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:57 pm

I occasionally registered as Diogenes on a few Forums. Not necessarily political ones.
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