Who discovered America?

[Rorschach]

You're wrong there nef.
I know Italians that still think of themselves as italian.
That when you walk through their front gate you are no longer in Australia.
That live and work in italian enclaves.
Who expect their daughters to marry "italians".
Why do you think there are so many ethnic clubs?
We have many hyphenated Australians and many who don't even consider themselves Australians at all.

All multiculturalism does is divide a society.
It is cultural apartheid... it undermines a nationality and creates disharmony and isolation within societies.

[AiA in Atlanta]

[quote="Neferti~"

Do you mean that people who migrated eons ago and now with children and grandchildren who are born Americans for generations still call themselves Italian-americans?



[/quote]

Yes, they still call themselves Italian-American even though great-great-great grandfather Vito Corelone is long dead and buried and they speak no Italian at all ...

[IQS.RLOW]

Everyone like to self group themselves as a separate race until someone else groups them as a separate race, then its racist so the self grouping race now groups the racial grouper into a racist group for grouping races.

[AiA in Atlanta]

You're wrong there nef.
I know Italians that still think of themselves as italian.
That when you walk through their front gate you are no longer in Australia.
That live and work in italian enclaves.
Who expect their daughters to marry "italians".
Why do you think there are so many ethnic clubs?
We have many hyphenated Australians and many who don't even consider themselves Australians at all.

All multiculturalism does is divide a society.
It is cultural apartheid... it undermines a nationality and creates disharmony and isolation within societies.

The *Italians* I have met in WA certainly thought of themselves as Italian.

[Rorschach]

That's why they all barrack for Italy when it plays Australia in the world cup.

[Outlaw Yogi]

According to Graham Hancock's 'Underworld' [fascinating book, particularly some of the underwater photos of clearly human carved/sculptured/quarried structures/monuments] the Japanese have a legend/folk story claiming the 'Jomon' (named after oldest known pottery discovered, believed to be 16,000 years old) used a strong current to travel across the Pacific (rather than skimming the coasts around Bearing straight) to the American West coast 15,000 years ago, and again 5000 years ago.
It didn't seem like a claim to discovery, but rather knowledge of its existence.

[Chard]

Yeah... to bad the Norse beat Columbus and the Chinese by about five centuries. Eric the Red hit Greenland in the late 900s and Lief Ericson was in Newfoundland a decade later.

[Neferti]

Yeah... to bad the Norse beat Columbus and the Chinese by about five centuries. Eric the Red hit Greenland in the late 900s and Lief Ericson was in Newfoundland a decade later.

Why do you say that? You got overtaken by the English, didn't you? Not the Spanish? The Chinese obviously thought that Florida wasn't a good enough looking joint for retirees ... or newbies.

Who was it who landed and had problems with the "red indians"? Pocahontas comes to mind, also John Smith, 1600's. Until around then, "America" was a happy place for wild animals and natives.

Greenland and Newfoundland has nothing whatsoever to do with the current United States of America ....

As usual Yanks seem to confuse North and South America and the United States of America .... you don't run all, just the USA bit. Mate! You also don't "own" the title of The World. If something dramatic (or great) happens in The World, it doesn't necessarily mean the USA. This arrogance is what makes Yanks so obnoxious!

[Chard]

Greenland and Newfoundland has nothing whatsoever to do with the current United States of America ....

The "Americas" and the "United States of America" are two entirely different things, sweetheart. One is a country and the other is a collective name for North America, South America, Central America, the islands of the Caribbean, and Greenland. When you say "X discovered the Americas" you're not talking about the schmuck that discovered Boston, you're talking about whoever first explored a given patch of dirt over an entire hemisphere of the planet.

Fact is, the Norse were in the Americas long before Columbus or the Chinese explorers listed in the article you posted. Norse exploration of the Americas predates them by five fucking centuries.

As usual Yanks seem to confuse North and South America and the United States of America

Says the dumbass that doesn't understand the difference between the terms "Americas" and "United States of America". Seriously, go the fuck back to school.

[freediver]

Why do you think there are so many ethnic clubs?

Capitalism.